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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
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| I'm that confident i agree we don't need a fullback...............easy, easy, easy
Same as for me.
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| Smith can play fullback very well as seen in the 2008 Grand Final in replacement of Webb. I would go as far to say its his best position.
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| I don't have a problem with Smith as a player but at the end of the day it's been made clear by the ommisons of Senior, Gleeson and co that Smith is looking to build for the future so why is a guy who's off to Union even been selected in the first place?
I'd rather let Briscoe test himself in a huge game. I think he's been pretty solid so far(bar a little fumble tonight).
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I'm that confident i agree we don't need a fullback...............easy, easy, easy
Sorry I left the fullback slot open for Smith or Briscoe.
Smith is good in attack and Briscoe good in defence so don't know which gameplan I would play against the Aussies and which to play. After watching the game again in the morning sober I will pick a proper team but Westwood starts for me.
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T.Smith
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| Quote: post "Sorry I left the fullback slot open for Smith or Briscoe.
Smith is good in attack and Briscoe good in defence so don't know which gameplan I would play against the Aussies and which to play. After watching the game again in the morning sober I will pick a proper team but Westwood starts for me.
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T.Smith'" Westwood to start, pffff, Smith only picks him because he plays for Warrington.
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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| Quote: manoa thompsons knees "Westwood to start, pffff, Smith only picks him because he plays for Warrington.'"
He played really well against the kiwis so for me he starts.
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| Quote: manoa thompsons knees "Westwood to start, pffff, Smith only picks him because he plays for Warrington.'"
True. Wouldn't be getting a look in if O'Loughlin was fit.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I don't have a problem with Smith as a player but at the end of the day it's been made clear by the ommisons of Senior, Gleeson and co that Smith is looking to build for the future so why is a guy who's off to Union even been selected in the first place?
I'd rather let Briscoe test himself in a huge game. I think he's been pretty solid so far(bar a little fumble tonight).'"
IIRC wasnt it about 6 fumbles trying to clean up a kick
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2- Fox
3- Ellis
4- Shenton
5- Hall
6- Tomkins
7- Eastmond
8- Graham
9- Sinfield
10- Carvell
11- Peacock
12- Burgess
13- Wilkin
14- Morley
15- Crabtree
16- Westwood
17- Roby
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| Quote: post "He played really well against the kiwis so for me he starts.'"
Crabtree should start as he's been excellent these past few weeks.
We don't need Roby as Sinfield can play the full 80 meaning we can have an extra prop on the bench
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Crabtree should start as he's been excellent these past few weeks. '"
He says himself that he is more effective off the bench and I would agree with him. We want him to come on and give the 'tiring' forwards a bashing, which he does so well. Not to mention keeping them guessing with his nifty offloads (so long as he remembers when NOT to do them!)
Quote: thepriestman85 "We don't need Roby as Sinfield can play the full 80 meaning we can have an extra prop on the bench'"
We don't need an extra prop for the Aussies. We need pace and passing ability, and Roby has both those things. He is an impact hooker (whether he wants to be or not!) and coming off the bench is what he is best at. His passing improved 100% last night and with his ability to scoot, along with Tomkins and Eastmond's ability to dodge and weave, that should give the Aussies something to worry about.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "He says himself that he is more effective off the bench and I would agree with him. We want him to come on and give the 'tiring' forwards a bashing, which he does so well. Not to mention keeping them guessing with his nifty offloads (so long as he remembers when NOT to do them!)
We don't need an extra prop for the Aussies. We need pace and passing ability, and Roby has both those things. He is an impact hooker (whether he wants to be or not!) and coming off the bench is what he is best at. His passing improved 100% last night and with his ability to scoot, along with Tomkins and Eastmond's ability to dodge and weave, that should give the Aussies something to worry about.'"
I agree with the bit about James Roby. I would just give Sinfield a longer spell at hooker and then bring Roby on from the bench to have some impact against tiring defenders with Eorl Crabtree.
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| Smith should come in at FB, we need more on our kick returns. Plus I think Smith will be better chiming into the line than Briscoe was tonight.
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| Quote: Hairy Monk "1- Briscoe
2- Fox
3- Ellis
4- Shenton
5- Hall
6- Tomkins
7- Eastmond
8- Graham
9- Sinfield
10- Carvell
11- Peacock
12- Burgess
13- Wilkin
14- Morley
15- Crabtree
16- Westwood
17- Roby'"
Not far off for me.....after the first few selection debacles Smith has almost got it right....for me the strongest 17 we've got from the current squad, and the closest we'll come to taking the aussies would be the following;
1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Ellis
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. Tomkins
7. Eastmond
8. Graham
9. Sinfield (really stood up in this series and excelled all my expectations. The first time hes ever played up to international standard IMO and hooker is clearly his best position as can be seen how we lost our domination when roby came on and sinfield switched)
10. Morley
11. Peacock
12. Wilkin
13. Burgess
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14. Moore (Purely because roby offers nothing)
15. Crabtree (again vastly exceeded my expectations)
16. Westwood (dont rate him but hes had a good series and again played better than ive ever seen)
17. Carvell (just as i think we'll need some extra forward power)
In essence all we're off smith picking that is him seing the light and realising chris bridge is not up to it. If bridge goes in next week im worried as it will be wigan re-visited.....inglis will just trample all over him
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