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rlAccording to Noble. Bet you don't have the bollox to drop anyone though - well apart from Ainscough.
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Although Wigan boss Brian Noble congratulated the Crusaders, he was critical of his side's attitude towards the match which now means they have lost three of their last four matches.

Noble said: "I think we gifted the Crusaders the two points with the amount of errors and ball control we made. It was embarrassing at times.

"It was a reflection of our attitude, which I thought was poor today at times. With all the strides we have made in the last five or six weeks, today was a poor effort.

"You think you can show up and win so I suppose it is complacency. We have just disrespected the ball and we didn't do the things we have practised to do. It showed in the result.

"Two points were thrown away by us because of our attitude and that is taking nothing away from Celtic who were manful, dogged, they kept in the game and found some decent kicks.

"But the quality of our skill in relation to where it has been today was poor.

"I think the three times we got down to their line, we scored.

"We scored two more perfectly good tries which were chalked off. If you are going to give teams a lift over the wall, things will not go your way.

"It's a difficult one to take. It's not a big step back and the boys are very disappointed - I'm disappointed because I'm part of this team - but it does stick in the throat."

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And who instills the teams mentality icon_confused.gif:

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Like a lot of other Wigan fans at the game tonight we both feel very angry and let down by the performance by the players tonight.

We have all spent a lot of money and given up a lot of time to come and watch them. All we ask is at least they give a damn, I don't care what Noble says about the players effort. They came and just went through the motions and arrogantly thought that would be enough to beat Celtic, who throughly deserved the win.

Thank goodness we decided to make a weekend of it and do something tomorrow as it would have been a complete waste of time and money had we not. I feel sorry for all the fans who have come down here and back up to Wigan in one day.

MOM was Feka as he was the only player who seemed to give a damn other than Ainscough who made a couple of appalling errors in the first half.

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Quote: MattyB "'"

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Quote: Owdpopularsider "And who instills the teams mentality

Mentality does not need to be instilled into a player. A player either can be bothered to play or not. They get paid to da a job and are stealing a living this season.

If the players cant get themselves up for a game everyweek then they are not only in the wrong club they are in the wrong sport as well. Some of those players either buck up their ideas or should be embaressed and made to play in the reserves. Also let the Australins know they need to get out if they cant be bothered to play. ive had enough of the crap give Riddell time. Hes has 6 months or more in the country hes known he was coming here a year ago. Same for Roberts as well.

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Quote: tank123 "Mentality does not need to be instilled into a player. A player either can be bothered to play or not. They get paid to da a job and are stealing a living this season.

If the players cant get themselves up for a game everyweek then they are not only in the wrong club they are in the wrong sport as well. Some of those players either buck up their ideas or should be embaressed and made to play in the reserves. Also let the Australins know they need to get out if they cant be bothered to play. ive had enough of the crap give Riddell time. Hes has 6 months or more in the country hes known he was coming here a year ago. Same for Roberts as well.'"


Good post. Once the players step over the white wash it's up to them.

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Quote: tank123 "Mentality does not need to be instilled into a player. A player either can be bothered to play or not. They get paid to da a job and are stealing a living this season.

If the players cant get themselves up for a game everyweek then they are not only in the wrong club they are in the wrong sport as well. Some of those players either buck up their ideas or should be embaressed and made to play in the reserves. Also let the Australins know they need to get out if they cant be bothered to play. ive had enough of the crap give Riddell time. Hes has 6 months or more in the country hes known he was coming here a year ago. Same for Roberts as well.'"

I agree with a lot of that. Yes Noble has his faults as has been mentioned on here.

But where is the players pride and professionalism, where is the players caring towards the fans? Neither of them were on display tonight icon_mad.gif

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Quote: Bolton_Warrior "I agree with a lot of that. Yes Noble has his faults as has been mentioned on here.

But where is the players pride and professionalism, where is the players caring towards the fans? Neither of them were on display tonight Surely the young Wigan lads waiting in the wings would show more pride in the shirt.

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Quote: Catalancs "Surely the young Wigan lads waiting in the wings would show more pride in the shirt.'"

I am sure they would as well.

I know the likes of Liam Farrell would for starters. Mark Flanaghan played tonight and did ok but it was not easy for him to shine amongst the dog turd surrounding him.

As for Lee Mossop, well how the hell can he get a game in superleague for Huddersfield who are higher up the table than us, but not for us? That one sure as hell beats me.

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Quote: Bolton_Warrior "I am sure they would as well.

I know the likes of Liam Farrell would for starters. Mark Flanaghan played tonight and did ok but it was not easy for him to shine amongst the dog turd surrounding him.

As for Lee Mossop, well how the hell can he get a game in superleague for Huddersfield who are higher up the table than us, but not for us? That one sure as hell beats me.'"

Maybe we'll see against Hull KR.

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Down to nothing but poor coaching, motivation and tactics, other coaches in superleague get the very best out of there players. Warrington a good example, crap with Lowes in charge yet considerabley improve with Smith in charge, for me not changing the coach earlier in the season has written this season in superleague off.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Down to nothing but poor coaching, motivation and tactics, other coaches in superleague get the very best out of there players. Warrington a good example, crap with Lowes in charge yet considerabley improve with Smith in charge, for me not changing the coach earlier in the season has written this season in superleague off.'"



No he has a great track record....with 1 team whose infrastructure he inherited.

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Quote: LovesToSpooge "Down to nothing but poor coaching, motivation and tactics, other coaches in superleague get the very best out of there players. Warrington a good example, crap with Lowes in charge yet considerabley improve with Smith in charge, for me not changing the coach earlier in the season has written this season in superleague off.'"


I agree with Charlie Seeling.


Quote: LovesToSpooge ""You think you can show up and win so I suppose it is complacency. We have just disrespected the ball and we didn't do the things we have practised to do. It showed in the result.

"Two points were thrown away by us because of our attitude and that is taking nothing away from Celtic who were manful, dogged, they kept in the game and found some decent kicks.'"



So Brian, you are blaming the defeat on complacency and poor attitude? And who is that down to?

Mr Lenegan - are you going to listen to these same excuses for the next 3 months and watch our support dwindle further or are you going to grow some b0llocks and take action?

Whatever people might think, today was a very embarrassing result.

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