FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > passion in the club
29 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2009Jan 1970LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



lets bring back passion to the club and build for the future.get rid of the aussies and bring back some of the boys who have passion and flare for the club. own grown players who the club brought throw as youngsters and are now playing well at other clubs because the club wanted big names instead of passion. Players like briscoe, allen,ballard brothers,coyles,colbornect ect..... All those players when played in the acadamy should have made wigan greats but was not given there chance.I am sure wigan fans would sooner watch a team of own grown players playing with passion than an over payed team of so called aussie and yorkshire superstars.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman3420
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
123.jpg
No trees were harmed during the creation of this post. However, a number of electrons were mildly inconvenienced. . Saint94 wrote "Every team is in your feckin shadow....we all know." - Amen to that, brother . Saddened! wrote "We've got the worst backline in the competition, bar possibly London and Wakey. I'd swap our 1-7 with Salford in a heartbeat.":123.jpg



Yeah - Let's start by sacking Pat Richards and George Carmont today.

Both Aussie, so must be both overpaid and rubbish.

And as to Allan, Coyle and Colbon - Remind me which SuperLeague club they are "starring" for now ???

Oh, that's right. They're not good enough to be at the heart of any other SL club, so why should WE be made to accept them, just because they happened to grow up in the area ???

Get a grip ffs.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2687No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2010Oct 2010LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
12324.jpg
Best Wigan No7 ever [b]Terry Newton Wigan legend RIP[/b]:12324.jpg



Quote: Pie Eyed "Yeah - Let's start by sacking Pat Richards and George Carmont today.

Both Aussie, so must be both overpaid and rubbish.

And as to Allan, Coyle and Colbon - Remind me which SuperLeague club they are "starring" for now ???

Oh, that's right. They're not good enough to be at the heart of any other SL club, so why should WE be made to accept them, just because they happened to grow up in the area ???

Get a grip ffs.'"


Colbon is at Hull K.R i think but he was never going to be a superstar was he

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach37No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2009Jan 1970LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



The clubs been on a downward spiral for quite some time!, In my opinion Wigan has lost the Wigan heart and soul (home grown players),

We have alot of aussies etc within the side, which on paper are very talented, however they have failed to play to their maximum.

It's not much fun being a Wigan fan these days, theirs so much inconsistency within the team, and the worrying thing is they have never been able to sort that problem out!

Nobby is trying but it isn't working, he keeps saying the right things, and i think he genuinly beleives in what hes saying, but us as supporters (the paying public) aren't seeing much change.

The way the team played against Saint's last Thursday was the best i have seen them for ages!, however they had a spell in the match where they lost the composure and had spells in the match where they failed to convert their opportunities and thats what cost them on that day.

Catalans away in my opinion came too soon for them, they were shot, completely dead on their feet!. They started well and then just ran out of gas!. The Dragons picked us apart, and got through at will and in the end deserved to win!.


So what happens next?

On the face of it things don't look great for the rest of the season, we have lost a large % of our matches already, and it's essential that for things to get better, the team must find their composure and i think the chairman needs to do something, Noble is a good coach with what he did at Bradford. However he at the moment has failed to succeed with the challenge of Wigan. Maybe it is time to make a change? and bring someone else in, preferably a Wiganer, I think right now that is what the team need!

RankPostsTeam
Moderator14395No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024May 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
26.jpg
Last league derby at Central Park 5/9/1999: Wigan 28 St. Helens 20 Last league derby at Knowsley Road 2/4/2010: St. Helens 10 Wigan 18:26.jpg

Moderator


Quote: redcap "lets bring back passion to the club and build for the future.get rid of the aussies and bring back some of the boys who have passion and flare for the club. own grown players who the club brought throw as youngsters and are now playing well at other clubs because the club wanted big names instead of passion. Players like briscoe, allen,ballard brothers,coyles,colbornect ect..... All those players when played in the acadamy should have made wigan greats but was not given there chance.I am sure wigan fans would sooner watch a team of own grown players playing with passion than an over payed team of so called aussie and yorkshire superstars.'"


Ever heard of Bell and Hanley? I could go on rattling the names off but Wigan have had plenty of overseas and non Wigan born or produced players over the years in the successful sides.

They were part of sides that had passion and a will to win.

It isn't where you are from that counts it is having the right attitude and players like these had it in spades.

Whether some of our current overseas players are out of the same mould is perhaps debatable but that does not mean the solution is employing the likes of those ex-Wigan players you list.

We haven't missed one bar Briscoe and as every man and his dog knows he was behind Radlinski so had little option but to leave if he wanted first team footy.

Dave

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman3420
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
123.jpg
No trees were harmed during the creation of this post. However, a number of electrons were mildly inconvenienced. . Saint94 wrote "Every team is in your feckin shadow....we all know." - Amen to that, brother . Saddened! wrote "We've got the worst backline in the competition, bar possibly London and Wakey. I'd swap our 1-7 with Salford in a heartbeat.":123.jpg



Quote: rsefitpro2007 "So what happens next?

On the face of it things don't look great for the rest of the season, we have lost a large % of our matches already, and it's essential that for things to get better, the team must find their composure and i think the chairman needs to do something, Noble is a good coach with what he did at Bradford. However he at the moment has failed to succeed with the challenge of Wigan. Maybe it is time to make a change? and bring someone else in, preferably a Wiganer, I think right now that is what the team need!'"


Again with the "Wiganer" bit.

Which GOOD Wigan-born coaches have we had recently ???

And were the following Wigan-born? :

John Monie
Graeme Lowe
Frank Endacott
Stuart Raper

Admittedly, our best coach (imo) of recent times was born in Wigan, and that was Mike Gregory.

However, having a Wigan-born coach matters not one jot to me, as long as we get in a motivator, who will take no cráp from the players

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15453
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: redcap "Players like briscoe, allen,ballard brothers,coyles,colbornect ect..... All those players when played in the acadamy should have made wigan greats but was not given there chance..'"

Briscoe fair enough, but we couldn't keep him and Radlinski. Ashton would be more to the point but we couldn't compete with union for him. Allen had his chance and wasn't good enough, same with the Coyles. Colbon was alright but only as cover. I've never seen the Ballards play but they don't seem to be cracking any pots elsewhere. Having a big academy means letting a lot of young players go, that doesn't make us a bad club it's just neccessary.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2785No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2012Nov 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41627_1288549685.jpg
"I read somewhere that Leeds-Bradford is an airport, Wigan-St Helens is a rivalry. I can't wait to play my first game against them.":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_41627.jpg



Watching the players behind the sticks in catalan on monday i would say there isnt much passion there we dont have a loud captain that shouts at the players when a try as been scored at least for the 2 past years we had trent who looked to be a decent talker.

AJ
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman12903No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2021Aug 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1530.gif
:1530.gif



Quote: those were the days " we dont have a loud captain that shouts at the players'"


icon_rolleyes.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2103No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



graeme west only lost 1 game and got the boot icon_confused.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman8142No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



If I thought for one minute that Brian Noble had the squad he wanted I'd say get him out.
This is not a Brian Noble squad.
They are most certainly not a Noble pack, nor do we have Noble style halves.
Before we condemn the man give him the players he needs and probably wants. Only one forward signed since IL bought the club, Riddell.
Props have been our priority for years and we don't look any nearer signing one now than at anytime in the last 16 months.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman3420
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
123.jpg
No trees were harmed during the creation of this post. However, a number of electrons were mildly inconvenienced. . Saint94 wrote "Every team is in your feckin shadow....we all know." - Amen to that, brother . Saddened! wrote "We've got the worst backline in the competition, bar possibly London and Wakey. I'd swap our 1-7 with Salford in a heartbeat.":123.jpg



Quote: MR FRISK "graeme west only lost 1 game and got the boot
And when Endacott "went", we were second in the table.....

RankPostsTeam
Moderator14395No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024May 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
26.jpg
Last league derby at Central Park 5/9/1999: Wigan 28 St. Helens 20 Last league derby at Knowsley Road 2/4/2010: St. Helens 10 Wigan 18:26.jpg

Moderator


Quote: Father Ted "If I thought for one minute that Brian Noble had the squad he wanted I'd say get him out.
This is not a Brian Noble squad.
They are most certainly not a Noble pack, nor do we have Noble style halves.
Before we condemn the man give him the players he needs and probably wants. Only one forward signed since IL bought the club, Riddell.
Props have been our priority for years and we don't look any nearer signing one now than at anytime in the last 16 months.'"


Which brings us full circle to the fact Noble can't coach this team. It may well not be a Noble type squad but even if IL signed them all Noble should be getting better out of it.

Dave

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1619
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15483.jpg
:15483.jpg



I'm not convinced by that argument - how long has Noble been here - he has certainly been here long enough to have been around whilst most of the signings have been made. How many of the current squad were here when Noble arrived - very few therefore it musty to a degree be his squad - unless the rumours are true and Noble has so little involvment in recruitment that IL picks the squad (although personally if this were true I would have expected Noble to have resigned due to it).

Also Anderson then Potter at Saints have hardly changed the squads big time, McLennan at Leeds the same.

AJ
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman12903No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2021Aug 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1530.gif
:1530.gif



Quote: DaveO "Which brings us full circle to the fact Noble can't coach this team.'"


Which means we either provide him with a half back and some props, or we appoint a new coach. i sitll dont see us winning anything with a different coach and this team.

Quote: DaveO "It may well not be a Noble type squad but even if IL signed them all Noble should be getting better out of it.'"


Agreed.

29 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps
29 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Bilko , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.89599609375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2503
3m
Transfer Talk V5
christopher
423
8m
Planning for next season
leyther
167
20m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63003
28m
2025 Season tickets
PopTart
173
37m
New Players
BigTime
102
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5135
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
Recent
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
Recent
England vs Samoa
Stu M
129
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
121
1m
England vs Samoa
Stu M
129
3m
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
4m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
4m
New Players
BigTime
102
5m
Is Eamon OCarroll off Yes New Coach Thread
Rafa9
132
7m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
23
7m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
Ex-Swarcliff
223
9m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Ex-Swarcliff
82
9m
Jerrys Last Ever Game
Trojan Horse
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Spookisback
6
TODAY
Paladin Sports
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
115
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
32
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
566
England's Women Demolish The W..
522
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
821
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
629
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
914
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1408
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1641
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1912
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1491
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1759
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2128
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1691
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1779
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1908
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2091
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M +11,444 ↓-10580,15414,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024 3 England M34-16Samoa M
WINT2024 2 ENGLAND W82-0WALES W
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2503
3m
Transfer Talk V5
christopher
423
8m
Planning for next season
leyther
167
20m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63003
28m
2025 Season tickets
PopTart
173
37m
New Players
BigTime
102
Recent
Film game
Boss Hog
5135
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40508
Recent
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
Recent
England vs Samoa
Stu M
129
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
121
1m
England vs Samoa
Stu M
129
3m
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
4m
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
4m
New Players
BigTime
102
5m
Is Eamon OCarroll off Yes New Coach Thread
Rafa9
132
7m
Squad 2025
Miserybusine
23
7m
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
Ex-Swarcliff
223
9m
England Vs Samoa Test Series
Ex-Swarcliff
82
9m
Jerrys Last Ever Game
Trojan Horse
4
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Itchy Arsena
5
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
The Biffs Ba
6
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Spookisback
6
TODAY
Paladin Sports
Deadcowboys1
4
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Rugby Raider
6
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
Chris71
115
TODAY
England v Australia
karetaker
32
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
566
England's Women Demolish The W..
522
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
821
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
629
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
914
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1408
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1641
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1912
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1491
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1759
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2128
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1691
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1779
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1908
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2091


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!