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| Quote: DaveO "I disagree. I don't think there is anyone who wants him to fail and I think we all hope he will be a great player for us.
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So why do some continue to almost revel in anything that might possibly be negative about the guy, even going so far as to distort facts, or misrepresent situations just to try and back up their belief that he's a waste of time? Surely if a few are going that far, then they can hardly be wanting him to succeed can they?.
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "So why do some continue to almost revel in anything that might possibly be negative about the guy, even going so far as to distort facts, or misrepresent situations just to try and back up their belief that he's a waste of time? Surely if a few are going that far, then they can hardly be wanting him to succeed can they?.'"
Nobody is reveling in it. It's just not surprising whenever something happens with Pryce. Obviously he'll be cheered. It was a minority of (you've been warned before about the use of that word. Take this as your final warning) that were booing him in the first place.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Did you really go today?
How did Ian Thornley play? a very talented young player.
Which centre scored and put his winger in for two tries?'"
Yes i did go today , pryce put his winger stefan march in for 2 tries. he even scored himself . think that was in the first half hour. It was men agains boys out there.but my previous post is also acurate as regards to pryce. Ian ran well caused them all sorts of problems.as did ocarroll.
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| Your negativity regarding Pryce shines through.
Quote: jameswk "well watched the reserves today and pryce was poop . hobbled round for 15 minutes of the first half and in the second half i actualy think he touched the ball once in 40 minutes . get ainscough on the wing. sell pryce to the half way house pub team'"
Forgetting to mention that he played the full 80, scored one try and put Marsh in for two. He touched the ball a few more times than one in the second half, but Wigans ball control in the second half was appalling (Wigan were leading 36 - 0) at half time only scoring two tries in the second half, it was hardly Pryces fault was it? The reason I brought Thornley into the debate (I player I rate highly) is that Pryce created far more than he did yet it's Pryce getting the stick, why?
Remember last week
Quote: jameswk "i watched pryce in the reserves friendly on saturday. he went off injured again . we were stood in a group and the general opinion ( not just mine ) was that he still looked unfit ( hands on hips after a hit up ) walking back into possition. realy looked like he did not want to be there. madge and wane were watching and recording from a scaffold platform. he certainly did not stand out in that game although he did put a nice kick through for someone to score a try off . i saw him put one nice hit in also . He will never make the first team on that performance . He should be tearing the reserve teams apart.'"
When again you conveniently forgot to mention the reason Pryce went off was that he got a smack in the mouth and was bleeding, so by the rules of the game had to go off to get it stitched. You then conveniently forgot to mention McIlorun and Walker went off injured and did not return but Pryce did.
I'm no saying that Pryce was outstanding in either of the games, but giving a balanced view of what actually happened.
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| Richards to Fullback
Ainscough/Pryce to Wing depending on how Ainscough has gone at Widnes and how Pryce has trained
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| Quote: DaveO "Well given you watch the under 20's what is your opinion on this? Should he pick Pryce or go for Ainscough or Goulding?
You often used the "do you watch the under 21's" argument least season so given you do, give us the benefit of your opinion as to who of those three he should play
Given that whoever plays will be up against Matt King would rule Ainscough out. They found him out at Wire last season.
But I'm going to be completely obtuse here.
I would play
Josh Charnley.
He was the most improved player at Wigan last season, he's fast, strong and has a brilliant attitude to training.
If not him I would go with Pryce to combat Kings physical size.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Given that whoever plays will be up against Matt King would rule Ainscough out. They found him out at Wire last season.
But I'm going to be completely obtuse here.
I would play
Josh Charnley.
He was the most improved player at Wigan last season, he's fast, strong and has a brilliant attitude to training.
If not him I would go with Pryce to combat Kings physical size.'"
I think if we played Pryce his fitness better be spot on otherwise Briers will identify him as a weakness and kick the ball behind him all night and when he is knackered he will bomb him to death.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Your negativity regarding Pryce shines through.
Forgetting to mention that he played the full 80, scored one try and put Marsh in for two. He touched the ball a few more times than one in the second half, but Wigans ball control in the second half was appalling (Wigan were leading 36 - 0) at half time only scoring two tries in the second half, it was hardly Pryces fault was it? The reason I brought Thornley into the debate (I player I rate highly) is that Pryce created far more than he did yet it's Pryce getting the stick, why?
Remember last week
When again you conveniently forgot to mention the reason Pryce went off was that he got a smack in the mouth and was bleeding, so by the rules of the game had to go off to get it stitched. You then conveniently forgot to mention McIlorun and Walker went off injured and did not return but Pryce did.
I'm no saying that Pryce was outstanding in either of the games, but giving a balanced view of what actually happened.'"
Right here goes. Dont get me wrong here i realy do want pryce to do well at wigan. so do not think this is a one man crusade against pryce. I would love nothing more than to see him in the first team causing opositions defences all sorts of problems.
But and a big but. in a reserve grade team , playing against what could only be described as a very young leigh team. Pryce should be head and shoulders above them ( forgive the pun) .He just wasnt. for the last 15 in the first half he struggled limping and seemed to be stretching off alot obviously trying to shake off a knock . At half time the whole team walked off together, pryce 15 yards behind them all. dont know what that was about , maybe nothing.
The second half pryce took one run in and unless i missed it i dont actualy think he touched the ball again. I could be wrong on that though but he certainly didnt do anything in second half . could he have come in to help the forwards out, im sure he could have put himself about more.when he dropped on that fella who was already tackled thought he had killed the poor fella.I think he had to go off . Yes he did do 80 minutes but hey its what you do on the pitch while your on that counts.
He was good in first 20 -30 creating for marsh. I well say it again i want pryce to do well for us . At this moment going off his performances in the reserve grade i just cant see where he will fit in the team.
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| Quote: post "I think if we played Pryce his fitness better be spot on otherwise Briers will identify him as a weakness and kick the ball behind him all night and when he is knackered he will bomb him to death.'"
That's one of the reasons I would go with Charnley. Because of Pryces size it's difficult for him to turn quickly.
Saints used the tactic very effectively v Lesley Vainikolo.
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| Can anyone tell me what is wrong with Josh Veivers he is tipped for big things, I believe he is fully fit and he plays FB, why should we change the team around when we can bring in a FB for a FB??
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| Quote: jjb10 "Can anyone tell me what is wrong with Josh Veivers he is tipped for big things, I believe he is fully fit and he plays FB, why should we change the team around when we can bring in a FB for a FB??'"
fair point . madge will make the call in the week i am sure. maybe josh is not quite ready to be dropped in at such a crucial game against an in form wire team.
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| I think the fact that goulding didnt play in the reserves today would suggest that he will get the wing spot.
Looks like goulding may have been withdrawn from the reserves due to the injury to Phelps so that he is available for the wire game next week.
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| Quote: jjb10 "Can anyone tell me what is wrong with Josh Veivers he is tipped for big things, I believe he is fully fit and he plays FB, why should we change the team around when we can bring in a FB for a FB??'"
Josh's lack of pace would be a major concern, and he had very poor game last week (unusual for him) dropping the ball twice which gifted Wire reserves two tries.
On the plus side he is a very good organiser / talker from the back continually shouting players into position.
He may be in Maguires thought as he was withdrawn at half time yesterday.
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| Quote: Tricky Dicky "I think the fact that goulding didnt play in the reserves today would suggest that he will get the wing spot.
Looks like goulding may have been withdrawn from the reserves due to the injury to Phelps so that he is available for the wire game next week.'"
Or he maybe on his way to Salford?
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