Were you at that match? An amateur side would have beat Hull that night. I don't think the boos had anything to do with it, as proved by the week after the match with quotes from Noble and the players who 'did it for themselves'.

After listening to Cullen on boots and all i hope we put 100 on them. the obnoxious git .

For this season the pragmatic approach is to do just that.


As for the general principle that you only need to get into the top 4, then that is correct. Under the current rules (which incidentally I don't support), then you do.



I agree with your last point and indeed have made this already.

It is IMO ultimately futile. The horse has bolted.




So there is no advantage of finishing 1st or 2nd? If there is an advantage you have to start each season aiming for 1st and 2nd and to do that means what you need to do now is no different than pre the play off system which is get results from day 1 and be consistent.

I also think any side that doesn't do this will, even of they make the top four, not be good enough to win the thing. A consistent league performance says much about the actual quality of the side and inconsistent sides will 99 times out of 100 not get the GF. I'd like a better chance than that and the only we we are going to see Wigan in a GF is if they start the season well and keep it up IMO.

Dave

The starting well argument doesn't really matter as long as you do improve, at this point last season Saints where 5/10 and many had the knives out about them being finished - but after that a 24 game unbeaten run (only Wigan took a point off us before the GF) saw us finish top clearly and win the CCup...

I appreciate we have had previous form too improve last seasn but Wigan have shown in this season against Saints and much more against Bradford (for all their woes you are the only team to slap them) that you can play good rugby.

From a Wigan POV I do agree with all the Noble out people though, as soon as you can get a good quality replacement otherwise I can't see you winning anything unless something drammatically changes before that.