Last season Percival scored 20 try’s, set 17 up. Whereas Gildart scored 13 and set 8 up. Percival is far better and the stats back that up.

Percy isn’t fit to lace Gildart’s boots. Let’s not forget, Mr Bennett also opted to play a second rower at centre instead of him too!

last year Gildart won the grand final....Percy won erm

You’re arguing against statistics with one mans opinion.

What have team honours got to do with individual ability?

Arguably the most successful coach in RL history, I believe his opinion is valid.

Saints fans are losing their heads already and the wheels haven’t even started to come off yet



Would love Lam to get binned off and Waney to come in as caretaker coach til the end of the season, there would be panic & hysteria over the Lump

You’re the ones who have started a thread to discuss how great we are.

Obviously but the validity of his opinion is irrelevant. The point is statistics are fact and they carry more weight than one persons opinion and the statistics clearly show Percival is considerably better than Gildart.

You're no better than you usually are, fair to average, its just that this season so far, most of the rest are worse than that at the moment. Lets see what happens in October, if you're still around

"Lies, damn lies and statistics"

Great but I’ll stick with Percival having 16 more try involvements along with everything else, over someone’s opinion.

Fine, and I'll stick with the image of Gildart going past last seasons Man of Steel as if someone had plonked a dustbin at fullback.

So how do you compare statistics of 2 people playing in completely different teams then? You do understand the nature of statistics, don't you? Without a constant they are completely meaningless. Wayne Bennett's opinion, on the other hand, was based on having them both in the same set up vying for a place in the same team with the same personnel and structures. He chose Gildart. Now do you get it?

And Saints fans will stick with the images of Wigan fans watching Saints in the Challenge Cup final,picking up the LLS again and watching the playoff series from your armchairs..You will moan about the LLS meaning nothing but it shows weve been the most consistent team over 2 years and banked the £100k that goes with it.You wouldnt be bothered about the trophy but your chairman would love the money as ,if reports are to be believed your skint...

Well I'll most certainly watch Saints in the final just for the novelty value, after all it's been a very long time since you've been in one.

....ill stick to Gildart being involved with the team winning the grand final

If your running at full pelt with acres of space either side of someone who is basically stood still, of course you’re going to go past them.

Really? I seem to recall Regan Grace in exactly the same situation with a support player inside him, yet bundled into touch by the covering Sam Tomkins!

That’s a load of nonsense. Should we get rid of the top try scorer award because everyone plays in completely different teams? Their stats are absolutely comparable, they both play centre and face the same opposition and given how good this Wigan squad is, Gildart is of no disadvantage in that regard. Literally your only argument for Gildart being better is that Bennett picked him which is a poor argument because he was rubbish anyway, apart from one try.

He also thought Josh Hodgson was a better hooker than Roby so I wouldn’t get too excited about his opinion.

Gildart is a quality player though.

lol even when they are in a relegation battle, Wigan fans still claim they are the best team in the league

Always found it strange that he picked Hodgson before Roby. I’m still waiting to see Robes have a bad game!
I suppose Bennett sees Hodgson week in and week out which we don’t. He’s a decent hooker but I’d say he’s not Roby’s level.

How's that thread going were some of your fans say they have the best players in the league in every position and wouldn't have any other player from any other team in other league.
Even the one or two that have a brain cell are saying that g they would only pick a couple from other teams.
Also, comical to write off Wayne Bennett's coaching opp pinion as just an opinion to criticise gildarts selection over Percival, but then stand by a statistic that Percival had more tries so must be a better player and say that no matter what team your playing in shouldn't affect how many tries our how well an individual performs.
Playing in a very good team, or bad team, will definitely affect individuals and their perceived performances.

In a combined 13/17 saints would have 6/8 nailed on, with wigan about 5/6 with a couple debatable.
And don't underestimate how much coaching, injuries, confidence when in a winning team and playing with other players can influence individual performances.
But we don't have to look to far back to see some of these unbeatable saints players looking every bit as vulnerable as some of the wigan players currently.

Now Bennett is trying to poach Thompson from inside the England/GB camp haha, Saints must hate the guy. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ea ... -thompson/

Now Bennett is trying to poach Thompson from inside the England/GB camp haha, Saints must hate the guy. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ea ... -thompson/