Watching Macca last night was inspiring, he was immense - a true warrior, he reminds me so much of Terry Newton sometimes it is scary.

Newton was a more skilled player, but struggled to get the better of Cunningham and Lowes. MM would have given those two more problems.

Yesterday showed what MM is all about. Immense. He does cross the line on occasion but if you take that away you loose the player. I would still like a bench hooker with a bit more pace and finesse to complement him. Powell may develop into that role but I'd love Clark. Looks nailed on for wire though.

You've seen more of him than me (though not many people see much of him) but Hanley Clarke Farrel are streets ahead for me and played in an era with better players. I stand by my world cup comparisons.

As for the rest of the replies.

Sorry for giving an opinion. All narrow minded fans think their thug is great. Trust me Mickey Mouse is a cheap thug with limited ability. He wouldn't get in our current team at Rovers. Hodgson has out performed him this year in a poorer team and has a far greater skill set. He isn't close to Roby who is a true 'warrior'. Targeted every game by Mickey Mouse types and just gets on with it.
The main point of my post which non of you responded too was what a coach Wane is turning into.
You should all put more effort into praising him than this pr#ck.
By the way how's the Cas wingers recovery coming on?
Wane improves each season and has brilliantly formed winning team's with little financial support,and losing his best players each year. He's allowing your youngsters to develop whilst looking after them.

Love to hear your thoughts on why you have given yourself a username not only after a thug (in his day) but also the way he committed his thuggery?

Does this make you 'narrow minded' as well?

Rugby League isn't a difficult game. You run harder and tackle harder than your opposite Number and more often than not you come up on the winning side. Wigan play an aggressive Game right on the border (and sometimes over) of the rules, but I've no problem with that. I wish the Saints Pack played with half of the aggression that they do.

McIlorum exemplifies that every week for Wigan, And he would run through Walls for Wane and his Club and for me you can't ever replace that in a side. Would I swap him for Roby? I'm unsure on that, both offer different elements to their teams. One thing for sure, if we ever get a GB team back, they would be two Fantastic Hookers to have.

Hanley and Farrell are streets ahead of virtually any British LF in the last 20 years. Without taking anything away from Clarke, who was a fine player, he wasn't as good as O'Loughlin as he simply didn't have the combined skill set that O'Loughlin posseses. Their defence is comparable and both are great leaders who lead from the front but O'Loughlin has a better passing game by some considerable distance. O'Loughlin also has a useful kicking game which Clarke never had. O'Loughlin is regarded by most good judges on both sides of the globe as genuinely world class so I'm sure you'll excuse me if I take your opinion with the pinch of salt it deserves.

Just one other thing. You say 'trust me...' then go on to give an opinion based on nothing but bias and club loyalty. Why exactly should we 'trust you' again? I don't hear any clamour for Hodgson to be included for England anywhere, or is this something solely restricted to the area around East Hull? Just for your information MM is the incumbent. Obviously your opinion is a more accurate barometer of who is best though...

Now that was a spear tackle from Roby, but he's no thug

McIlorum is a thug.

I watched the World Club Challenge and do not remember McIlorum standing out in the beaten Wigan team. I have read a few reports to refresh my memory and struggle to find a reference to McIlorum. Indeed, Warea-Hargreaves scored a try so perhaps McIlorum should have tried to tackle him rather than beating him senseless.

It is amusing that a number of posts also refer to Ryan Bailey. If you need to make that comparison to try and highlight McIlorum's qualities then he needs some new friends.

he also dived in with his knees in a tackle yesterday but apologised straight away so far play him.

Well - Shaun Wane is proving himself to be a pretty decent coach. And he has said that MMc is the toughest player he has ever coached. He also makes him captain in Lockers absence.

I think that's all you need to know my friend. It may be that Shaun Wane knows a thing or two about MMc's attributes that you are not party to. Just a thought.

I think fans of other SL teams would love to have McIlorum in their team, even though they will never admit it.