he is not there - source said think its to do with his passport because he was training as usual during the week. but did not elaborate on this and to be honest mate i am not bloody going to ask again. me mrs is mates with a few of the girls who go out with a couple of the players and on facebook and passport was mentioned but in.t a kind of jokey way - so who knows??? i suppose if he was injured he could of pulled out last minute and its just a joke about the passport thing.

i initially said it was because of passport then i did change it too not 100% sure because it could be a wind up. whick too be honest i hope it is. hock is needed tomorrow.

I heard that passport rumour too mate in pub last night in town from a lad who know somone that plays in the reserves. probably just rumours but he isnt there because he has been spotted.

If this passport thing is true, someone in the backroom of the club, possibly the club secretary needs a good talking to at the very least, he/she should have all player/backroom staff passports 2 weeks ago so if there is a problem / lost passport another could be ordered.

You were spot on with the team for St.helens so your gaining some credibility in what you say.

Carmont not playing I might have expected. Brilliant news about Pat if he can play or is even close to playing after the rumour about him being injured for 4-6 weeks.

pryce playing if phelps not

and coley and fielden starting.

After recent performances he would be lucky to make the bench if anyone other than Noble were coach

i agree, like i said before any other of the props would have been dropped. but not fielden. what message does this give to the rest of the players?

Roberts
Pryce
Goulding
Gleeson
Ainscough

Something like that I would imagine.

I would have dropped Fielden but who do you replace him with?

I expect a team sheet tomorrow Clifford

i feel a bit of pressure on now

. maybe not drop Fielden but Prescott to start.

thinking about it i am certain pat will play because if he was to be out with injury for 3/4 weeks why take him to France? credit crunch and all that

they would have included somone else in the 19.

He is in France. Wigan are trying to get him fit to play v Cats. Personally, I do not think they will but who knows. What I do know is that whoever told you he is Wigan is winding you up. If he did play v Cats you are going to look silly. Some friend.

He went to Lanzarote though. He misplaced and found his passport

they did, he isnt in the 19:

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he must be staying in a different hotel than the team then. oh and by the way i wont look or feel silly at all. i am just repeating what was told to me by some one who is with the team. if they are trying to get him fit then its at a different place than the rest of the team have been training today and they are keeping it a secret from the rest of the squad


may be thats the new game plan - isolate a player from his team mates, dont tell them where he is, dont let him stay at the same hotel or train with them and then surprise surprise up he pops, starting on Monday. "Hello Hocky - nice surprise to see you".

who has told you this????

Hock is though - and no Pryce!

Hope Carmont's fully fit - didn't look good towards the end of the match last week

fair enough. just seems strange that if he was out for a few weeks that he would be going. lets see tomorrow if he is playing.

Lanzarote was in Jan the 8th to the 15th to be precise. just maybe it expired??? or he managed to loose it in the last 3 months. who cares???

Clifford based on what you are saying / what you have been told. There was never a need for Hock to find his passport because he was never going to France in the first place. Had he lost his passport he would have been delayed but not prevented from playing v Cats. He would not be the first player to arrive late due to passport problems. McIlorum and Lanzarote

Do you think Hock would be training if they are treating an injury? Surely your player friend has told you Hock has ongoing injury issues and to play requires injections? The team has already been named for Cats so you should know it already.

so what you saying, he wasnt going in the first place due to injury and that he has arrived late and is not playing because they cant get him fit??
ok if he has an injury and was not going there anyway , why are you saying he is there and they cant get him fit. he does have an ongoing injury problem but this usually does not stop him from being present with the team?. Have you seen him in France? the team was named tonight. he is not in it and not in the same hotel. your confusing me a bit. and even if what i have heard is rubbish , am i not allowed to post it, considereing that half the stuff on here is a load of rumours???

oh and by the way, the physio's and doctors that treat injured players stay in the same hotel as the team, so ok he might not be training with the team but other players get treatment/massages before games and they have not seen him in there either. so is a team of unknown french doctors /physios trying to get him fit???

Hock aint playing. Defo.

As previous, the posts about his passport wasnt made up.

His sisters post on facebook:

Kirsty Lousie Brown did gaz make it love? mum said he couldnt find his passport the dumb ! xxSat 18:11 · Comment · LikeUnlike

He couldnt find his passport on saturday morning when the team were due to leave, hence he didnt travel. He coyuldnt get a replacement as its Easter weekend and the passport office is closed!!!!!!

I agree with this - for anyone who can remember the story, Cameron Phelps could be the new Mark Cannon

Thing i liked abut Phelps on Thursday besides his kicking game was his willingness to run the ball back something we have been lacking since Radders i think he could go well for us at Fullback.

I think the whole hock passport thing is because of Richie Mathers.....

Bloody Hell Mthers