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| Quote Fantastic Mr Cat="Fantastic Mr Cat"Well, that seems to have worked out well for huddersfield doesnt it.
Might as well have bloody kept him.'"
True. Not sure they could have done any worse, even if ALL the players hated each other.
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| I'm not surprised that the wigan fans want to get over this incident sharpish and keep bateman as he's certainly a class act but after hearing what he's done I'm surprised the police haven't charged him
The club to their credit have done very well to brush it under the carpet by 'convincing' people to do things and that's the reason why wigan have been able to clear it up quickly and not get the police involved
Fwiw if it had happened at my club I would want him sacked,if he had done what he's done and not been a professional sportsman with a strong club looking after him he could realistically get a custodial sentence
But that's just my opinion of course
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| Quote welsh wizard="welsh wizard"I'm not surprised that the wigan fans want to get over this incident sharpish and keep bateman as he's certainly a class act but after hearing what he's done I'm surprised the police haven't charged him
The club to their credit have done very well to brush it under the carpet by 'convincing' people to do things and that's the reason why wigan have been able to clear it up quickly and not get the police involved
Fwiw if it had happened at my club I would want him sacked,if he had done what he's done and not been a professional sportsman with a strong club looking after him he could realistically get a custodial sentence
But that's just my opinion of course'"
Funny how so many other fans get pious about this sort of thing when it's a Wigan player.
"If it was one of our players, I'd want him out, dah de dah ..."
Yeah, right. Talk is so cheap when you think you're on the moral high ground.
But I suppose I'm flattered that you think Wigan are so influential they can convince the police not to charge for a serious assault (bear in mind, the police don't even need a complaint to take action in those circumtances).
Perhaps consider an alternative possibiliy, that the police found reasons of their own not to charge, and then try to work out what those might be.
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| Bateman is one of our best players adding to that he's only young, a real asset to the club. But does John still want to play for Wigan?
Look at the facts:
-Removed the Wigan Warriors intro on his twitter
-Been talking to Canberra (Confirmed by Canberra)
-Been fined 10k when no one else has had a penny deducted
These are enough to argue he might no longer be settled at Wigan.
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| Quote Last Son of Wigan="Last Son of Wigan"Bateman is one of our best players adding to that he's only young, a real asset to the club. But does John still want to play for Wigan?
Look at the facts:
-Removed the Wigan Warriors intro on his twitter
-Been talking to Canberra (Confirmed by Canberra)
-Been fined 10k when no one else has had a penny deducted
These are enough to argue he might no longer be settled at Wigan.'"
Brian Carney has stated that there's a greater then 50% chance he won't be at Wigan next year.
I'd love to see it all be resolved and he goes on to take the 13 shirt when Lockers retires and him to have a long career here but it just doesn't feel that's going to be the case.
I'd still think the odds are stacked well in the favour of him not being here next year.
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| Quote welsh wizard="welsh wizard"I'm not surprised that the wigan fans want to get over this incident sharpish and keep bateman as he's certainly a class act but after hearing what he's done I'm surprised the police haven't charged him
The club to their credit have done very well to brush it under the carpet by 'convincing' people to do things and that's the reason why wigan have been able to clear it up quickly and not get the police involved
Fwiw if it had happened at my club I would want him sacked,if he had done what he's done and not been a professional sportsman with a strong club looking after him he could realistically get a custodial sentence
But that's just my opinion of course'"
You say if he had done what he,s done, what has he done no one knows just guess work.
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| Quote Ashton Bears="Ashton Bears"You say if he had done what he,s done, what has he done no one knows just guess work.'"
I know exactly what he's done AB and it as I said before if it was you or me we could be facing a period in prison
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Funny how so many other fans get pious about this sort of thing when it's a Wigan player.
"If it was one of our players, I'd want him out, dah de dah ..."
Yeah, right. Talk is so cheap when you think you're on the moral high ground.
But I suppose I'm flattered that you think Wigan are so influential they can convince the police not to charge for a serious assault (bear in mind, the police don't even need a complaint to take action in those circumtances).
Perhaps consider an alternative possibiliy, that the police found reasons of their own not to charge, and then try to work out what those might be.'"
I'm a widnes fan (don't laugh) and when we had hock I honestly wanted rid of him as soon as he started misbehaving as he was creating a bad atmosphere at the club,he created a divide amongst our fans as he was obviously a good player but his behaviour on and off the field imo had a adverse affect on the club in general which is far more important
What bateman has done is far worse than anything hock has done and it looks like your fans are thinking more of the success he could/would bring but you have to think of the great culture you lot have and by the sounds of it after this season you won't have him upsetting the applecart
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| Quote welsh wizard="welsh wizard"I'm not surprised that the wigan fans want to get over this incident sharpish and keep bateman as he's certainly a class act but after hearing what he's done I'm surprised the police haven't charged him
The club to their credit have done very well to brush it under the carpet by 'convincing' people to do things and that's the reason why wigan have been able to clear it up quickly and not get the police involved
Fwiw if it had happened at my club I would want him sacked,if he had done what he's done and not been a professional sportsman with a strong club looking after him he could realistically get a custodial sentence
But that's just my opinion of course'"
There are lots of rumours about saying what might or might not have happened, but no facts to say 'what he's done'. I doubt any actual 'facts' surrounding the incident will every come out into the open as there are always 2 sides to every story. With this in mind, I don't know how anyone can say 'I would want them sacked' as everything is just hear say. Obviously it must be a serious incident due to the severity of the punishment handed out by the Wigan club. To imply also that Wigan have influence over what the police do or do not do is ridiculous. Unrest like this isn't good for any club, players or supporters, look at us with the Carney 'incident' (which bares no resemblance to this rumoured incident I grant you and so cannot be dealt with in the same manor). My only comment would be that its a real shame as I had Bateman down as top of the running for Man of Steel on this years form, but I'm a little relieved that he won't be playing against us in the cup as he tore us apart single handed earlier in the season. Whatever has happened, everyone makes mistakes and I doubt anyone on here is 'whiter than white' (I certainly haven't been) and I hope that he can move on from it as a player, be that at Wigan or elsewhere as he is a talented individual. Things do tend to get blown out of all proportion at times!
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| Quote caslad75="caslad75"There are lots of rumours about saying what might or might not have happened, but no facts to say 'what he's done'. I doubt any actual 'facts' surrounding the incident will every come out into the open as there are always 2 sides to every story. With this in mind, I don't know how anyone can say 'I would want them sacked' as everything is just hear say. Obviously it must be a serious incident due to the severity of the punishment handed out by the Wigan club. To imply also that Wigan have influence over what the police do or do not do is ridiculous. Unrest like this isn't good for any club, players or supporters, look at us with the Carney 'incident' (which bares no resemblance to this rumoured incident I grant you and so cannot be dealt with in the same manor). My only comment would be that its a real shame as I had Bateman down as top of the running for Man of Steel on this years form, but I'm a little relieved that he won't be playing against us in the cup as he tore us apart single handed earlier in the season. Whatever has happened, everyone makes mistakes and I doubt anyone on here is 'whiter than white' (I certainly haven't been) and I hope that he can move on from it as a player, be that at Wigan or elsewhere as he is a talented individual. Things do tend to get blown out of all proportion at times!'"
I have said it a few times, if what he has allegedly done is true i don't want him anywhere near the club. He has been involved in incident upon incident since he came here and the majority of it is fighting. The club have deemed fit to ban and fine him. I have no doubt this is on the advice of the police because if he went to a magistrate he would probably get a fine and community service so it's saved a lot of paperwork and media attention. If what has been alleged is not true then i can only guess that the fine and ban is for bringing the club into disrepute at Haydock racecourse and is a token gesture for the racecourse. Unfortunately i believe it is true. Some players don't have the intelligence to change their spots and will always be dumb, Bateman is one of these, Hock is another and so many more.
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| Quote Cherry_Warrior="Cherry_Warrior"I have said it a few times, if what he has allegedly done is true i don't want him anywhere near the club. He has been involved in incident upon incident since he came here and the majority of it is fighting. The club have deemed fit to ban and fine him. I have no doubt this is on the advice of the police because if he went to a magistrate he would probably get a fine and community service so it's saved a lot of paperwork and media attention. If what has been alleged is not true then i can only guess that the fine and ban is for bringing the club into disrepute at Haydock racecourse and is a token gesture for the racecourse. Unfortunately i believe it is true. Some players don't have the intelligence to change their spots and will always dumb, Bateman is one of these, Hock is another and so many more.'"
'If' true then that puts a different light on things. However, I was just trying to point out that, at this moment in time, everything is rumours and 'ifs/buts'. To say 'I would want him sacked if he was at my club' without knowing the facts is a little harsh in my opinion. A better way of putting it would have been 'If the rumours are found to be true then I would want him sacked' - Totally different.
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| Quote caslad75="caslad75"'If' true then that puts a different light on things. However, I was just trying to point out that, at this moment in time, everything is rumours and 'ifs/buts'. To say 'I would want him sacked if he was at my club' without knowing the facts is a little harsh in my opinion. A better way of putting it would have been 'If the rumours are found to be true then I would want him sacked' - Totally different.'"
Oh i wasn't being pedantic Caslad75, That is just my view of it 
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