What is the point of keeping KP and Phelps?
What can they do that a youngster can't?

Very good point.

Cant see us keeping Phelps when he never plays for the first team anyway. Would be the biggest waste of a quota spot ever.

Correct. If these two were kept given who we have arriving and who out of the rest of the squad has either already re-signed or we definitely want to re-sign then there would be no room for the next crop of youngsters to come through. It's gong to be tight as it is on that score even if these two depart.

Dave

well there is a space on the quota for him (2 in 2 out this year) and unless they are thinking of bringing in any one else from over seas then I cam see Phelps staying , he has got the talent and is still young himself , he just needs a run free of injury and a chance to get back . one bad thing for him is the way Sam has made the fullback position his own now IMO but he can play at centre and our first team 2 are both 30+ so I think he is worth a look at in there .

I can kind of see the logic in re-signing both on a 1 year deal to be honest.

Phelps on the basis of - Roberts and Richards both having suffering quite bad injuries which are never easy to full recover from and as such they may need to be gradually re-introduced. So having someone with the versatility of Phelps next season may be an added bonus.

Karl Pryce - He made an improvement this year on previous showings, albeit he is still not really producing what you would expect from someone of his size and attributes based on what he's done before. So maybe, they have said to him "you can have a 1 year deal and if you achieve certain targets we set then that will trigger another year".

Personally I feel these triggered year options are very worthwhile as the players tend to produce when they're playing for a contract.

All this being said, I can see why they wouldn't re-sign

I wouldn't want him (or KP) keeping Marsh or Charnley out.

Personally, I'm really pleased George is staying. He does so much organising in the team and whilst he might not be quite as quick as he was in his first year; he has been excellent for us (especially the second half of the season) and definitely deserves another year.

Phelps was playing very well until he got injured and personally don't think he always got the recognition he deserved as there is no doubting his enthusiasm and he is a pretty good all rounder.

KP and the exit door is a no brainer for me

Agreed unfortunatley. He is a great guy who has obviously done alot behind the scenes for the charity and with the local schools. When fit he plays really well but has really struggled to get any kind of form back since being injured early on.

It's a real shame cos Cammy is one of those 'middle players' who is a head above the rest when you watch the reserves but doesn't seem to have a place in the 1st team.

He told me on Sat night he hasn't signed anything yet and at the moment he hasn't got a club.

I think this is an important attitude to adopt.

Surely Made and Waney have done enough to earn our trust now.

Whatever decision they reach re. players, I'll happily have it.

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I think, given that we have an empty quota spot, he's young, not gonna be on too much money and very versatile as well os obviously giving 100% every game then letting phelps go would be stupidity. However, as you say if Madge and Wane think he should go then I will accept this as the right thing to do because I trust them 100% now and tbh what they say is going to be the best way.