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We have to play Nsemba ,he is box office and will become a high profile player if not now but in the future and the game needs these type of players like a French etc.

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The big benefit of Marshall is his relationship with Wardle. That partnership was devastating this year. International teams get sod all time together, so if we can transplant an already successful partnership into the England team then that makes sense IMO

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Quote: --[ WW ]-- "--"The big benefit of Marshall is his relationship with Wardle. That partnership was devastating this year. International teams get sod all time together, so if we can transplant an already successful partnership into the England team then that makes sense IMO'"


As much as we want him to I think Marshy is 4th in line behind Young, Ashton and Johnstone. With all due respect to him I don’t see how/where he can improve to get ahead of them.

He’s a cracking player but the others are just genetically a bit better.

You put Marshy in Youngs body you’ve got the best winger in the world.

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Quote: jonh "As much as we want him to I think Marshy is 4th in line behind Young, Ashton and Johnstone. With all due respect to him I don’t see how/where he can improve to get ahead of them.

He’s a cracking player but the others are just genetically a bit better.

You put Marshy in Youngs body you’ve got the best winger in the world.'"


In isolation those players may be better than Marshall, but is Wardle + Marshall a more effective defensive and attacking force than Wardle + any of those other 3?

It is a moot point for this series, but it should be given consideration for the series next year when that left side could be Marshall - Wardle - Nsemba - Smith

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Quote: --[ WW ]-- "--"In isolation those players may be better than Marshall, but is Wardle + Marshall a more effective defensive and attacking force than Wardle + any of those other 3?

It is a moot point for this series, but it should be given consideration for the series next year when that left side could be Marshall - Wardle - Nsemba - Smith'"


So what we are saying-
Marshall-Top try scorer
Wardle-Top centre
Nsemba- Young player of the year
Smith- great control of the game,superb kicker
Won all trophies you can win as a integral part of the team,Yep I would go with that,they so compliment each other.

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Quote: --[ WW ]-- "--"In isolation those players may be better than Marshall, but is Wardle + Marshall a more effective defensive and attacking force than Wardle + any of those other 3?

It is a moot point for this series, but it should be given consideration for the series next year when that left side could be Marshall - Wardle - Nsemba - Smith'"


It’s a fair point but personally I still think Marshy will be relying on those 3 ahead of him at the moment to pick up knocks if he is to force his way into the starting 13 for England.

Short term though with Young and Johnstone being out he gets his chance to represent England and I’m looking forward to him hopefully having a top game and pushing himself up the pecking order.

In reality we have some pretty good depth in the wing position and by the time the Aussies come over in 2025 there could be a few more names pushing for a spot too.

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Looking like Nsemba is starting looking at England social media he’s been presented with the 12 shirt.

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Any idea what happened to Havard? looked like he may have been injured.

Otherwise pretty good. All our guys did well, especially Thompson and Nsemba.

Farnworth is world class.

Can't wait for game 1 of the ashes

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Farnworth won't be shifting from left centre so Wane will have to decide between shifting Wardle to the right or sticking with a specialist right centre in Newman.

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Quote: MadDogg "Farnworth won't be shifting from left centre so Wane will have to decide between shifting Wardle to the right or sticking with a specialist right centre in Newman.'"


Firstly Wardle will need to be available. Something feels slightly off with his absences from internationals time and again. Hopefully injuries every time these games come around are just a coincidence and not a case of him not really fancying it. I can't help but wonder with his character if he's a lad who doesn't want to spend time away from home and his family. It would be a shame if that is the case.

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Herbie has been played at right centre in the NRL, although you'd think he'd prefer the left, where he has spent most of his time.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Firstly Wardle will need to be available. Something feels slightly off with his absences from internationals time and again. Hopefully injuries every time these games come around are just a coincidence and not a case of him not really fancying it. I can't help but wonder with his character if he's a lad who doesn't want to spend time away from home and his family. It would be a shame if that is the case.'"


Saw Wardle with O’Loughlin before the game at Wigan and he was noticeably limping.

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Quote: stpatricks "Saw Wardle with O’Loughlin before the game at Wigan and he was noticeably limping.'"


Likely a sad coincidence this run of injuries around internationals then. He must be hugely frustrated with it all. Whatever it is, I hope he's available for the Ashes, then the World Cup and beyond. Watching Farnworth was mouthwatering and if you could get him and Wardle on either side, you really are running with a special pair of centres.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Likely a sad coincidence this run of injuries around internationals then. He must be hugely frustrated with it all. Whatever it is, I hope he's available for the Ashes, then the World Cup and beyond. Watching Farnworth was mouthwatering and if you could get him and Wardle on either side, you really are running with a special pair of centres.'"


Playing devil's advocate here a little, but is Harry Newman not a specialist centre? I know people will have different views on his ability / attitude but there's no doubt he can play.

Either way, with Farnworth nailed on for 1 centre spot, we've got some good competition for the other centre plus Percival at Saints could still do a job (i know he's latter end of his career), and we've Eckersley coming through the ranks at Wigan (still long way to go before he'll get considered for internationals?)

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Quote: Mark_P1973 "Playing devil's advocate here a little, but is Harry Newman not a specialist centre? I know people will have different views on his ability / attitude but there's no doubt he can play.

Either way, with Farnworth nailed on for 1 centre spot, we've got some good competition for the other centre plus Percival at Saints could still do a job (i know he's latter end of his career), and we've Eckersley coming through the ranks at Wigan (still long way to go before he'll get considered for internationals?)'"


The poster said special centres not specialist centres.

Yes Newman is a centre but going off the last couple of seasons he’s not a patch on Wardle all though to be fair he does go well for England.

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