Morning Gareth.

He was never a fans favourite with other clubs, now he will get it in the neck from his own kind.

If he gets in the England team v The Exiles, anyone up for some Booing?????

Well you won't get the chance in the Widnes game, so just offering another outlet for you.

Well hopefully it will come out in time before more players decide they don't want to play for the club.

With Hock now leaving who now will be filling his boots in the 2nd row?

Liam Farrell had already been given the #12 shirt in Hock's place before much of this came to light.

The similarities in this case and Chase wanting away at Cas Tigers are striking.

Chris Tuson will take the permanent bench spot with Greg Burke and Anthony Gelling behind him. We also have Hughes who can move to SR.

oh ok, so the next time a player leaves you have a ready made argument? But of course, he won't give the real reason, cause a "deal has been done"...

Its a shame because two of the best forwards in SL were available mid season in Manu and Ellis. Our pack looks shockingly lightweight this year. Mossop, Prescott, Luauaki, Flower, Dudson? Avearge SL players at best. In the past two years weve lost Fielden, Coley, Lima, Hock and Hoffman and havent found adequate replacemants, a lot of hope will be put on Taylor, lets hope he is up to it!!

Maybe, but what is very strange is that every player I know who has played under Wane has spoken highly of him (even those who have left the club).

Presume what you like.

"Every player I know" key phrase in the sentence.

For those saying "you don't know what happened" - FFS, Wane is his boss, as is IL. You do as you're told in the workplace. Unless they've made some totally unreasonable demand such as "do 5 laps, 50 burpees and eat your dog", he has NO excuse for this behaviour.

If he doesn't get on with Wane or his methods he needs to grow up and realise you don't always get on with colleagues, but you still make sure you do your job. If it's down to a bigger bust-up he needs to grow up, get over it and learn how to repair relationships. If it's over losing the No.12 shirt he needs to grow up and realise the club won't sit around waiting for him to decide if or when he's going to Australia. If it's down to his social life and outside influences he simply needs to grow up. His short RL career will be ending in a few years and he's fast becoming another "could have".

Normally I wouldn't be bothered and say it's his life and just a job at the end of the day, and I'd wish him well, but the time, faith and money Wigan have invested in him deserves more.

For me he's acting like a spoilt brat. He's always come across as thinking he's top dog and now he's shown his true character for all to see. What a shame, he could have been so much more.

Until someone has the balls to spill what they "know", Hock has just gone into the "sadly gone but not fondly remembered" folder.