So the key to your argument is the acceptance of Leeds and Saints dominance. That may be true at the moment in practical terms but as a general principle the idea is to get to 1st or 2nd.

You can't form a general principle that you only need to get into the top 4 because no one else is as good as those two.

Had we won the games we thought we ought (i.e. only losing to Leeds and Saints) we would still be in with a shout of that. We are not now because we have already lost 7 games.

Dave

LOST 7 Games!!!! Sometimes you have to see the facts written down to believe them!!! dreadful utterly dreadful...

Eddie on Sky said Celtics have been playing quite well and a win is just around the corner... might that corner be Stadium Way???

Iv'e already started practicing my "booing" technique for Sunday!!!
Just in case

No doubt the boo boys will be out in force on Sunday.

If we are beaten and play poorly what would you expect people to do, is it wrong to show your feelings . I presume you do expect us to lose with your post .

I don't BOO, but if it ends up 8 losses from 11 games... Maybe IL needs a push in the "right" direction??....

We had better beat these jubs by about 30 points at least, if not I will be livid!

I don't think we will lose but of course things won't go our way and people will become frustrated and inevitably boo

To the booers, who will you be aiming your boos at? The players or the coach? And how do you think they will make the distinction whilst on the pitch? If you're going to start booing because of Noble, the players will think you're getting on their back and we've already seen, booing doesn't change anything.

Totally agree, it seems too many people believe in the modern wishy washy approach which seems to have been championed in teaching and parenting. Focus on the positives, brush the negatives under the carpet. Brilliant isn't it.

Wigan 66 Hull 6 rlhttps://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby_league/s/1060947_wigan_66_hull_6rl

"Jeered off last week after their performance against Huddersfield, Wigan were given a standing ovation after thrashing the visiting Challenge Cup finalists.

And it proved to be just what It was just what the doctor ordered for Brian Noble's players who responded with five tries in the first half, with three coming inside the opening quarter as Hull were torn apart."

I see and agree with some of what your saying their is time and a place for these things, but it's peoples emotions that rule most of the booing , but what i can't understand is some of the happy clapping that goes on even when theirs been a lack of effort .

I hope your right but going off what I've seen this year including barrow i'm not to confident , how far have we slipped .