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So for next season we shall have new signings Hastings, French, Burgess and Clarke and lose Williams. There will still be some on here who will find fault with the situation.

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Quote: Phuzzy "Then tell me whose you think is better then we can debate it. It's alright saying you can't see what sets a current England International, a former international (and arguably the most underrated 2nd row in the comp) and the current England and Great Britain captain who is almost universally accepted as the best back rower in Superleague on his day, apart from anyone else. Give me your better back 3 and I'll happily tell you. How many games has O’Loughlin actually started this season? And how many last season?
Referencing the international selection really doesn’t set them apart from either Saints or Wire for that matter.
You may feel your back row is better, you might be right, but not by so much as to refer to them as outstanding.

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Its true Burgess is past his best but he should still be a handful for SL defences. He and Bullock on together should be exciting. Those two will pull defenders tight in the middle and create spaces out wide.

Ive said for a couple of years that i think Tom is the better of the 3. Sam is also past his best.

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Quote: Singing Warrior "So for next season we shall have new signings Hastings, French, Burgess and Clarke and lose Williams. There will still be some on here who will find fault with the situation.'"

You missed Bibby of that list and lose Sargison.

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Quote: jaws1 "You missed Bibby of that list and lose Sargison.'"


We've basically lost Williams, Sarginson, Hamlin, Tautai and some younger fringe players and replaced them with George Burgess, Bevan French, Jackson Hastings, Mitch Clarke and Bibby.

Not bad business at all.

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Quote: The_Enforcer "Its true Burgess is past his best but he should still be a handful for SL defences. He and Bullock on together should be exciting. Those two will pull defenders tight in the middle and create spaces out wide.

Ive said for a couple of years that i think Tom is the better of the 3. Sam is also past his best.'"


George is 27 and nowhere near past his best. This season he has played better after a poor 2018. If we can get him motivated he will be the best prop in SL by a distance

Sam Burgess is Souths most important player, now hes had his op on a nagging injury he will show his worth come playoff time.

Have you watched any NRL this season?

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Quote: Captain Hook "How many games has O’Loughlin actually started this season? And how many last season?
Referencing the international selection really doesn’t set them apart from either Saints or Wire for that matter.
You may feel your back row is better, you might be right, but not by so much as to refer to them as outstanding.'"

So your post is basically opinion based on wishful thinking and misunderstanding. O'loughlin has played 18 times this season and been playing longer minutes than any recent season. Up until a couple weeks ago he was apparently 4th at the club for most minutes played. So what's your point here?

As for 'not setting us apart from Saints'; who in their back row is a current international? Zeb Taia? Nope. Dominic Peyroux? Don't think so. LMS? Well if you count 2nd tier nations I guess. Joseph Paulo? Does a 2nd tier nation 2 years ago count as current? The only 1st tier appearance between the lot of them is 1 appearance for New Zealand nearly a decade ago! If you see that as the same may I suggest your viewpoint might be a little suspect?

I see you still haven't given me your better back row (I'm assuming Saints is just a wind up?). Come on, spit it out and at least give me a crack at it.

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It’s been lovely reading round social media and these boards for opinions on this signing. As a general rugby league fan I was made up Wire signed Widdop, Catalans got Maloney etc because it’s great for the league but funnily enough the general feelings around superleague don’t seem as positive on us signing one of the Burgess clan. You’ve got the usual salary cap breach claims, he’ll fit in at the grubiest team in the planet, he’s finished etc but my number one is from our favourite Wire fan Rubber Dickie-

“I’d rather sign Eddie Battye”

Close the forums, we’ve got a winner!

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Quote: NickyKiss "It’s been lovely reading round social media and these boards for opinions on this signing. As a general rugby league fan I was made up Wire signed Widdop, Catalans got Maloney etc because it’s great for the league but funnily enough the general feelings around superleague don’t seem as positive on us signing one of the Burgess clan. You’ve got the usual salary cap breach claims, he’ll fit in at the grubiest team in the planet, he’s finished etc but my number one is from our favourite Wire fan Rubber Dickie-

“I’d rather sign Eddie Battye”

Close the forums, we’ve got a winner!'"


You can't beat jealousy. It's always shown best from someone who'd quietly convinced themselves that they were now the biggest draw in town - and had then found out otherwise.

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Quote: NickyKiss "It’s been lovely reading round social media and these boards for opinions on this signing. As a general rugby league fan I was made up Wire signed Widdop, Catalans got Maloney etc because it’s great for the league but funnily enough the general feelings around superleague don’t seem as positive on us signing one of the Burgess clan. You’ve got the usual salary cap breach claims, he’ll fit in at the grubiest team in the planet, he’s finished etc but my number one is from our favourite Wire fan Rubber Dickie-

“I’d rather sign Eddie Battye”

Close the forums, we’ve got a winner!'"


It has been priceless reading! Before he signed for us, the general opinion is that most SL teams would welcome him with open arms. Now he's a Warrior its a case of hes finished, not been good since 810BC, wont be in the top 10 SL props etc etc....

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Quote: NickyKiss "It’s been lovely reading round social media and these boards for opinions on this signing. As a general rugby league fan I was made up Wire signed Widdop, Catalans got Maloney etc because it’s great for the league but funnily enough the general feelings around superleague don’t seem as positive on us signing one of the Burgess clan. You’ve got the usual salary cap breach claims, he’ll fit in at the grubiest team in the planet, he’s finished etc but my number one is from our favourite Wire fan Rubber Dickie-

“I’d rather sign Eddie Battye”

Close the forums, we’ve got a winner!'"



He will be disappointed. He is Wakefield bound.

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I wonder if all agents fees have been declared this time around ha ha

Again great signing and good to see weew getting better players coming over from nrl your team will be pretty decent next year if can get them gelled together in pre season and early games

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Quote: Phuzzy "So your post is basically opinion based on wishful thinking and misunderstanding. O'loughlin has played 18 times this season and been playing longer minutes than any recent season. Up until a couple weeks ago he was apparently 4th at the club for most minutes played. So what's your point here?

As for 'not setting us apart from Saints'; who in their back row is a current international? Zeb Taia? Nope. Dominic Peyroux? Don't think so. LMS? Well if you count 2nd tier nations I guess. Joseph Paulo? Does a 2nd tier nation 2 years ago count as current? The only 1st tier appearance between the lot of them is 1 appearance for New Zealand nearly a decade ago! If you see that as the same may I suggest your viewpoint might be a little suspect?

I see you still haven't given me your better back row (I'm assuming Saints is just a wind up?). Come on, spit it out and at least give me a crack at it.'"

Strangely my opinion isn’t based on reputation or on internationals (that was your criteria), based on your criteria I note you haven’t dealt with Wire.
As for O’Loughlin, I didn’t know how much he had played which is why I asked.
I note you have completely ignored the fact that I said I’m an admirer.
As for Farrell and the other bloke Hughes and Currie (even though nowhere near his best yet, are a match). No doubt you will respond with the “Hughes= Wigan reject” line. We see him week in week out just as you say about your 2.
Ps check out my signature for further clarification

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Quote: Captain Hook "Strangely my opinion isn’t based on reputation or on internationals (that was your criteria), based on your criteria I note you haven’t dealt with Wire.
As for O’Loughlin, I didn’t know how much he had played which is why I asked.
I note you have completely ignored the fact that I said I’m an admirer.
As for Farrell and the other bloke Hughes and Currie (even though nowhere near his best yet, are a match). No doubt you will respond with the “Hughes
Sorry, I didn't do Wire because it's a very similar situation to Saints. None of your back rowers are current internationals and, whilst I think Currie could have been with a good injury free run, as it stands, he's not. If I give you he's the equal of Faz (ex international) that leaves you Jack Hughes for Greenwood. Jack is a good, solid Superleague back rower but, even at his best, has never been near the England set up. I'm not sure who you want to put up against O'Loughlin but I can't see anyone in your squad (Jason Clarke, BMM - both of whom your own fans don't really rate) who comes close. You say you're an admirer so I'm assuming you agree?

I'm using being internationals as a benchmark because that's the highest standard achievable and is universally accepted as a marker of a player's worth across every sport in the world. Not really sure why you would object to that tbh and I'm sure you've used it yourself when describing Widdop, for example.

I'm not decrying your (or Saints) packs by the way. Both your front rows are significantly better than ours and much the same reasoning applies in reverse. However, my comment regarding the back row is a fair one and, unless you can show me a like for like one that stands scrutiny (to paraphrase your sig, anything else is just opinion) I'm not exactly sure what you're objecting to.

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