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| mick mcmanus, and the woman with the brolly wot hit them lol... omg i must be old... think i shud change my name on ere lmao ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote: MattyB "Must be my age, but the only wrestler names I've ever known are :
Big Daddy, Giant Haystacks and yon mon out of Auf Wiederson Pet (who was in Raiders of the Lost Ark).
Oh and Hulk Hogan.
Mick McManus?
Jackie Pallo?
Les Kellet?
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| omg u making me feel older now lol..
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| Quote: ABP' "The same could be said about Kelvin Skerrett who still to this day holds huge affections from the Wigan faithful. We all like to see abit of biff and the characters that go with it.
Being niggly, dirty and hard players is how Newton and Skerrett played the game from grassroots. It's their Rugby League personality and way of life which lead them both to be reasonable successful players both at club level and internationally, I wouldn't have them any other way (apart from drug taking!).'"
There is a huge difference between Newton and Skerrett and that is Skerrett never let the opposition wind him up to the extent it cost us in a match. He was quite calculating in his thuggery. Newton on the other hand was often targeted by opposing teams because they knew they could wind him up. If it didn't result in him lamping someone he often lost the plot and had to be subbed before he blew a gasket.
Quote: ABP' "I remember when we played Halifax in the early 2000's at the JJB. Big Paul Davidson bullying one of one younger players before Newton stepped in and peppered him with punches whilst driving him back around 30 yards to his try line. After getting sin-binned he recieved a standing ovation. Same with famous brawl at Knowsley Road in 2004, Wilkin being typically niggly in the tackle before Newton giving him a good pasting....I wouldn't swap those moments for the world regardless of the outcome.'"
And Skerrett doing his Super-Kel flying dive into a brawl was an outstanding bit of entertainment but I don't recall him ever getting so wound up in a crucial game he was a liability and IMO Newton wore his heart on his sleeve so much he did and he would let the occasion get the better of him.
Dave
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44075_1339364158.jpg What's the rumpus, Tom?
[quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj]
[quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... [/quote:1dso5atj]
[quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd.
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| I only noticed when watching this on you tube the other day that Kel actually cleans the ref out, who i think might be Cummings?
This may well be a well know fact, but i never noticed before
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| Quote: DaveO "There is a huge difference between Newton and Skerrett and that is Skerrett never let the opposition wind him up to the extent it cost us in a match. He was quite calculating in his thuggery. Newton on the other hand was often targeted by opposing teams because they knew they could wind him up. If it didn't result in him lamping someone he often lost the plot and had to be subbed before he blew a gasket.
And Skerrett doing his Super-Kel flying dive into a brawl was an outstanding bit of entertainment but I don't recall him ever getting so wound up in a crucial game he was a liability and IMO Newton wore his heart on his sleeve so much he did and he would let the occasion get the better of him.
Dave'"
Skerrett didn't let the opposition wind him up? Are you being serious? He was notorious for it.
In regards to never letting the occaision get the better of either of them, have you seen the 1994 Challenge Cup game against Saints on You Tube? Watch it and you'll change your mind.
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| Quote: ABP' "Skerrett didn't let the opposition wind him up? Are you being serious? He was notorious for it.
In regards to never letting the occaision get the better of either of them, have you seen the 1994 Challenge Cup game against Saints on You Tube? Watch it and you'll change your mind.'"
But at least Kelvin kept a clean slate off the park, as far as I'm aware.
Terry was dogged by controversy through most of his career. Weren't we expecting him to be sent to prison at one point for an assault?
I'd have a fully powered, fully fit Terry Newton in my side any day, but I don't think he should be idolised. He caused us quite a bit of bother.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "They were PROPER sportsman as you so elegantly put it before they entered the sports entertainment business. Wrestling is an Olympic recognised sport so back off that high horse of yours.
The point I was attempting to make was that if we allowed steroids in our game that list would be compiled of RUGBY LEAGUE SPORTSMEN.'"
After a few minutes of confusion I think I've realised that you've quoted the wrong post mate.
(I think you were suppose to quote Piemans and not mine)
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| Quote: ABP' "Are you sure that list of wrestlers isn't just those who are dead for whatever reason?
Owen Heart died from falling off a gantry, Benoit commited suicide and I'm pretty sure Yokozuna didn't need to use steroids.'"
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| Quote: Geoff "In terms of relevance to RL, I disagree. I think performance enhancing drugs should be treated more severely than recreational, by the sporting authorities.'"
Drugs are the cancer of soceity, most crime commited can be traced back to drugs. Any form of illegal drug use should result in a life time ban if we are to get rid of the menace once and for all.
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| Quote: ABP' "Are you sure that list of wrestlers isn't just those who are dead for whatever reason?
Owen Heart died from falling off a gantry, Benoit commited suicide and I'm pretty sure Yokozuna didn't need to use steroids.'"
it is(sorry for sticking my nose in here) but the majority of it is a very good example, i'm currently reading bret hart's autobiography and he's obviously telling at lot about the WWF performers from the late 80's onwards and being 'cut' and on the pills and how easy it was juice up, which looking back you'd have to be an idiot not to have realised(cept if your 10 years old).
Andrew 'Test' Martin in that list is a good example, he got canned from the wwe in 2003(4) with a neck injury whilst working a match, 2/3 years later he came back to the company and you couldn't recognise him, he was always a big bloke but now he was literally a walking wall of muscle, it was almost painful to look at him, another 18 later he was dead.
think it was yokozuna's weight that killed him, he was at about 700 lbs at one point.
And there's not even the deceased, some may remember lex luger, he was a hardcore roid user, had a stroke a few years ago.
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| I think it'd be a bit foolish for this discussion to go down the avenue of assuming steroids are the single killer.
In the sports entertainment form of wrestling there is a terrible culture of combining steroid abuse with a reliance on pain killers. A lot of wrestlers are falling into this trap due to the pressures of wanting to be a success and meeting the demands hectic schedules place on their body.
Ultimately this places too much stress on the heart, and can have shocking consequences.
Although these pressures do not exist in RL there is certainly an indication that similar practices exist.
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| Quote: Tezzerwolf "Drugs are the cancer of soceity, most crime commited can be traced back to drugs. Any form of illegal drug use should result in a life time ban if we are to get rid of the menace once and for all.'"
Yes, but that's a civil argument, not a sporting one, which is why I was careful to qualify my statement with "in terms of relevance to RL" and "by the sporting authorities".
I wouldn't have had a problem with separate civil punishment for Hock, for example, but that's a matter for the CPS, not the RFL.
You can't just single out sportsmen for a lifetime ban for drugs, it would have to be everyone.
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| Quote: Steinlager "I think it'd be a bit foolish for this discussion to go down the avenue of assuming steroids are the single killer.
In the sports entertainment form of wrestling there is a terrible culture of combining steroid abuse with a reliance on pain killers. A lot of wrestlers are falling into this trap due to the pressures of wanting to be a success and meeting the demands hectic schedules place on their body.
Ultimately this places too much stress on the heart, and can have shocking consequences.
Although these pressures do not exist in RL there is certainly an indication that similar practices exist.'"
Very true, although, you could say in a weird sort of way that the owen hart tradgedy was kind of related to this issue, obviously owen was a true wrestler, not a vince mcmahon 'hoss' style monster. Because that sort of thing got vince's dick hard, owen had to revert to his blue blazer gimmick to get tv time and ahead in the business, which as we know, sadly led to his death.
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| Quote: ABP' "After a few minutes of confusion I think I've realised that you've quoted the wrong post mate.
(I think you were suppose to quote Piemans and not mine)'"
Yeah your right there, sorry pal!
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