I'm not sure you can loan out someone who's on loan.

HE was playing for Wakey though so expectations were lower, and it was probably easier for him to stand out. Similar with Patrick, expectations were lower at Hudds so his his short comings are more easily forgiven.

His first spell was 15 mins today and his second was longer than that. Half an hour + is fine for an impact prop. Minutes aren't the issue. Whether he is actually making a decent impact and up to speed in defence is another question, personally I don't think he is.

Didn't go to the game and just reading the comments.
Don't know why everyone's surprised at Patrick's knock ons. He was always good for a couple when in a Hudds shirt. Good quick player suitable for hard fast grounds. Not a player for the DW last Friday, nor I'd have thought if you were trying up-size your pack.

Result doesn't surprise me at all. I don't know how they could possibly recover from playing on that slippy glue pot of a pitch last Friday. See Saints lost against what Hull FC fans seem to think they are the 2nd worst team in the league. Their players looked even more tired and laquered than ours on Friday. Looks like they couldn't recover either!

Mind you well done to Salford and Hull FC for taking full advantage.

Tautai is a player I have a lot of time for. He is capable of big minutes and has proven that at Trinity. The main issue with him is he extremely athletic and unfortunately that often means you are very injury prone. He has played in the wing has great strength and power and is very lean, unless he is injured he needs more time in the pitch and to be used as a game changer.

Patrick is a shocking player. Feet for hands and no impact. Offers absilutley nothing. I feel we need Gelling in the backrow and I hope if/when we get Thornley back we see that move.

Wane praised Tautai after the game. I can't agree. Did ok going forward but he's a total liability defensively.

Just seen that as well. You have to wonder if he knows what he's talking about sometimes.

Sounds like Patrick is playing like he did for us. A few good plays which look good and not much else. You can keep him... We have enough players who can't hold onto the ball at the Giants at the moment.

Patrick is total bob, struts about like he's in a southern comfort ad and can't back it up. Tautai looks the part to me, strong athletic and aggressive always gets you on front foot. I trust wanes judgement I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about ha

These 2 definitely need to be dropped Patrick isn't good enough and it seemed a daft idea to start him at loose forward only to change after 20 mins, wouldn't it of been best to start Bateman there who usually does close to the full 80. Tautai is a mystery to me from having watched him last year at Wakefield, have we got his indentical twin brother or something? Nothing like the player he was for them and I don't get why he seems so unfit. Once Flower and Crosby are back these 2 will struggle to get back in the team for me and I believe Greenwood deserves a shot in the 1st team ahead of Patrick and Tautai ATM.

Quote: NickyKiss "Wane praised Tautai after the game. I can't agree. Did ok going forward but he's a total liability defensively.'" 108 metres, 36 tackles with only two missed. Only Bateman made more tackles and he led the tackle busts with six. www.superleague.co.uk/report/11113

Quote: NickyKiss "Wane praised Tautai after the game. I can't agree. Did ok going forward but he's a total liability defensively.'" 108 metres, 36 tackles with only two missed. Only Bateman made more tackles and he led the tackle busts with six. www.superleague.co.uk/report/11113

Just watched the highlights on Wigan TV. Didn't realise yesterday just how woeful the defence was for BJB's try. Pathetic from Tautai and Mossop.

It was embarrassing. Just no effort there at all.

It was a poor attempt BUT in the set before he'd had a couple of big carries and the Williams put in the poor kick which Chase took, then sprinted up field. The Wigan forwards were struggling to get back onside and were chasing against the Salford backs

As I've said many times we've got to give the young players (Williams, Burgess, Tierney, Hampshire etc)a little bit of leeway, they will make mistakes. However the BIG errors were drops from Gelling an the first tackle and the two from Patrick when we were getting back in the game.