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| Quote: Grego "Exactly what i have heard. Bruised bone.'"
good news hope he makes speedy recovery do you think 6 days recovery time is pushing it a bit
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| People keep trying to find reasons not to like Phelps, but so far this year
v Crusaders - 1 bomb - defused.
v Hull KR - 1 on 1 tackle on Newton - made.
He will be our player of the season and is going to be a massive loss to us for the next few weeks.
On the other hand, its now or never for Pryce.
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| Quote: Grimmy "Really good - negative turn of phrase? I'm on about when they got an overlap on our line, Phelps slid over and both he and Roberts took their centre, neither wrapped the ball up, Phelps got handed off completely and the centre got the ball away with the winger in space, luckily the pass was bad and went to touch. It was the whole team's fault for not sliding but I was looking for him to either come in and stop the offload or slide out and get to the winger, he did neither. As I said Phelps was really good in attack before he went off and if he was fit I'd have him in at full back again but I still worry about his defence that's all. He's not Mathers but he's not solid either.'"
It's a negative turn of phrase mate, because you're either blind or totally biased in that you only expect certain players to play completely faultlessly and stop everything. Holy crap he got handed off? what a truly Epic Fail from Cam. Watch any game of super league and you'll find a number of players making errors, 'cock ups' as you call them, yet they never get a mention from you. I personally think your harshness on Cam is down to how you feel Ainscough should be in the side (as you've posted numerous times over the pre season almost hoping that others don't perform and saying Ainscough should start).
Seriously what do you expect from Phelps? He had a defensively very good game last night, even with the 'cock up', put in a great slow down tackle on Newton(?) when he was bursting through after handing off Fielden and they looked likely to score, and was superbly placed and read really well a dangerous kick through from Dobson and took it cleanly first time.
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "I personally think your harshness on Cam is down to how you feel Ainscough should be in the side (as you've posted numerous times over the pre season almost hoping that others don't perform and saying Ainscough should start).'"
Nail on head.
Moaning because someone got handed off, jeez.
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "It's time for Pryce 2 get an extended first team run IMO.
Ainscough proved his worth last season and was rewarded with a new deal BUT the best thing for his development is staying at Widnes for now.
This season is a crunch time for Pryce and this sustained period of game time will make or break him.'"
Assuming Roberts goes to FB, whoever fills in on the wing will be up against King. Given Ainscough isn't the best under the high bomb, putting him in that position's the wrong move for me.
I'd rather have Pryce playing outside Gleeson.
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| Quote: AJ "On the other hand, its now or never for Pryce.'"
Defo.
Regardless of if people rate him, don’t rate him or have an agenda against the lad Pryce has to be in the side for the next 4-6 weeks. Even if he has a stinker next week against Wire I’d still keep him in the side for the week after against Catalans.
In order to fully judge and evaluate Pryce Madge has to see him play over a period of weeks at SL level and now is the perfect opportunity for him to show any worth he has. The team is settled, playing well, he’ll be outside an inform centre in Gleeson and with Joel also on that side of the park it’s looking strong for us.
Our next six games games;
Warrington Wolves Away
Catalans Dragons Home
Bradford Bulls Away
Hull FC Home
Castleford Tigers Away
Leeds Rhinos Home
That’s six tough games for Pryce to prove his worth.
If he fails then it’s game over for him sadly but at least he will have been given a pro longed run in the first team.
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| Didnt bailey play in the reserves today? We could well see him in the 17 with something like:
STomkins (played at fullback before and didnt look out of place, plus always mopping up kicks close to our line, good fullback play)
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| That would pretty much mean Riddell playing 80 mins though, which IMO im not sure he could pull off with a good level of performace the whole way through
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| Quote: finchy17 "That would pretty much mean Riddell playing 80 mins though, which IMO im not sure he could pull off with a good level of performace the whole way through'"
Forgot to add when Riddell comes off, Leuluai to hooker and Lockers to 6. Not ideal but its an option!
I'd rather have Bailey in the team than Pryce.
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| Quote: Mother Feka "Didnt bailey play in the reserves today? We could well see him in the 17 with something like
It is a possibility bringing Bailey back in but I don’t like the idea of changing the four of Tomkins, Tommy, Piggy and Deacs as our HB/Hooker combo’s.
Let’s not beat around the bush Phelps is a MAJOR loss as he’s been playing like Slater does for Melbourne and Australia were he links up into the back line and creates the space for the likes of Gleeson and Roberts to score. Watch one of Australia’s first half tries at the DW last season and you’ll see we’ve ran a carbon copy of it last night.
The way we are using out FB this season seems key to a lot of our attacking plans and we’ve gotta make sure that who ever we bring in can play the way Phelps does otherwise it means changing our whole system in attack. I don’t think Richards has the rugby brain for this so the only two options are either Roberts or Tomkins really. Tomkins would fill the role better than Roberts as he’s got a better rugby brain but having him at 1 leaves a massive hole at 6?
Tough choice for Madge this week and I think he’ll go with Roberts there tbf.
(That’s unless Radders fancies a few games lol)
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| Sam needs to stay at 6, lets not do a massive rejig, lets just put Amos to 1 and bring in a winger.
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| Quote: AJ "Sam needs to stay at 6, lets not do a massive rejig, lets just put Amos to 1 and bring in a winger.'"
Agreed, and I would be happy to see any of Goulding, Pryce or Ainscough there tbh.
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| Quote: jameswk "well watched the reserves today and pryce was poop . hobbled round for 15 minutes of the first half and in the second half i actualy think he touched the ball once in 40 minutes . get ainscough on the wing. sell pryce to the half way house pub team'"
Did you really go today?
How did Ian Thornley play? a very talented young player.
Which centre scored and put his winger in for two tries?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Did you really go today?
How did Ian Thornley play? a very talented young player.
Which centre scored and put his winger in for two tries?'"
I didn't to the game but was the centre Pryce, by any chance????
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| Quote: AJ "Sam needs to stay at 6, lets not do a massive rejig, lets just put Amos to 1 and bring in a winger.'"
Very sensible thing to do. Maguire does seem very sensible.
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