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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"And what about the bell end who managed to get Farrells mobile number and called him to tell him that his sister had been badly hurt in a car crash. That was after the 2002 Challenge Cup Final btw.'"
His dad received the same call before the final. I'm sure Andy got it before the final too. Didn't 2 employees of the JJB stadium get the sack shortly after that incident?
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| Quote ="21-12"Which proves my point entirely, none of the above play for Wigan.
That's priceless. Boooo to the fourth most successful club in the superleague era!
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| forgot rugby league was invented at the start of SL
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| Obviously musn't be the most successful club ever now then because we havn't dominated the "SL era"
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| So let me get this right. Fans boo wigan players like tomkins because wigan completely dominated the sport 15 years ago?
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| Quote ="McRhino"So let me get this right. Fans boo wigan players like tomkins because wigan completely dominated the sport 15 years ago?'"
No, don't be silly.
They boo him because they realise that he is the most naturally gifted talent in SL and isn't playing for their side.
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| Quote ="Bridger"No, don't be silly.
They boo him because they realise that he is the most naturally gifted talent in SL and isn't playing for their side.'"
And because they are scared to death of him.
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"a014.gif
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The glorification of death, destruction, suffering and pain that you and Suzy Banjostring share is not something that I personally would find humour in.
However at least one of those statements is incorrect. Surely the Northern Irish have the 'Best domestic terrorists' on grounds of range of operations, expertise, longevity and scope of operation?
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| Quote ="McRhino"So let me get this right. Fans boo wigan players like tomkins because wigan completely dominated the sport 15 years ago?'"
No wrong. Thats the reason everybody hates us as a club, well that and the fact we are the biggest club in the country.
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| Did I read somewhere that Cummins has said Ganson got the decision wrong for McGuire`s try?
How ironic that would be hey.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Did I read somewhere that Cummins has said Ganson got the decision wrong for McGuire`s try?
How ironic that would be hey.'"
Forgot to put the  and the  at the end.
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| How blinded you all are, people don't like sam because he is a conman end of.
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| Quote ="bootie"How blinded you all are, people don't like sam because he is a conman end of.'"
who said that?
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| Quote ="bootie"How blinded you all are, people don't like sam because he is a conman end of.'"
Where as Ryan McGoldrick is a model pro!!!
Quote ="[Gareth"Quote ="bootie"How blinded you all are, people don't like sam because he is a conman end of.'"
who said that?'"

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| What a classically pointless thread!
The reason most fans dislike Tomkins is purely down to his cheating antics and gamesmanship. Don't kid yourselves you don't know what we mean; the trapping of an opposition players arm under the ball; the holding on to an oppostion players shirt whilst being tackled etc. Its nothing to do with the fact he plays for Wigan, nothing to do with us being jealous that he isn't in our team. He simply doesn't need the chip on the shoulder. Hopefully as he matures the arrogance will dissipate. (Moonlight Fit : can you understand that word - it means reduce)
I find it funny that you think that Tomkins is boo'ed because we're all jealous of him, but you admit to booing McGuire as you think he's a cheat! Classic Wigan! How does the chant go again.... oh yeah, "cheat, cheat, cheat" Brilliant that one
As for McGuire's try, it should have stood. I say that not simply because I'm a Leeds fan but because surely every drop goal should also be considered a knock on if that is the rule?
Enjoy your time Wigan, we most certainly did. Just hope you have a better coach replacement policy than ours.
Don't worry though, we'll be back 
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| Quote ="AJC"What a classically pointless thread!
The reason most fans dislike Tomkins is purely down to his cheating antics and gamesmanship. Don't kid yourselves you don't know what we mean; the trapping of an opposition players arm under the ball; the holding on to an oppostion players shirt whilst being tackled etc. Its nothing to do with the fact he plays for Wigan, nothing to do with us being jealous that he isn't in our team. He simply doesn't need the chip on the shoulder. Hopefully as he matures the arrogance will dissipate. (Moonlight Fit : can you understand that word - it means reduce)
I find it funny that you think that Tomkins is boo'ed because we're all jealous of him, but you admit to booing McGuire as you think he's a cheat! Classic Wigan! How does the chant go again.... oh yeah, "cheat, cheat, cheat" Brilliant that one

As for McGuire's try, it should have stood. I say that not simply because I'm a Leeds fan but because surely every drop goal should also be considered a knock on if that is the rule?
Enjoy your time Wigan, we most certainly did. Just hope you have a better coach replacement policy than ours.
Don't worry though, we'll be back
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People trap the arm and hold shirts every game. Why is it only Sam who gets booed for it then?
As for a Leeds whino giving us a lecture on cheating 
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| Quote ="AJC"What a classically pointless thread!
The reason most fans dislike Tomkins is purely down to his cheating antics and gamesmanship. Don't kid yourselves you don't know what we mean; the trapping of an opposition players arm under the ball; the holding on to an oppostion players shirt whilst being tackled etc. [uIts nothing to do with the fact he plays for Wigan[/u, [unothing to do with us being jealous that he isn't in our team[/u. He simply doesn't need the chip on the shoulder. Hopefully as he matures the arrogance will dissipate. (Moonlight Fit : can you understand that word - it means reduce)
I find it funny that you think that Tomkins is boo'ed because we're all jealous of him, but you admit to booing McGuire as you think he's a cheat! Classic Wigan! How does the chant go again.... oh yeah, "cheat, cheat, cheat" Brilliant that one

As for McGuire's try, it should have stood. [uI say that not simply because I'm a Leeds fan[/u but because surely every drop goal should also be considered a knock on if that is the rule?
Enjoy your time Wigan, we most certainly did. Just hope you have a better coach replacement policy than ours.
Don't worry though, we'll be back
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| Quote ="AJC"What a classically pointless thread!
The reason most fans dislike Tomkins is purely down to his cheating antics and gamesmanship. Don't kid yourselves you don't know what we mean; the trapping of an opposition players arm under the ball; the holding on to an oppostion players shirt whilst being tackled etc. Its nothing to do with the fact he plays for Wigan, nothing to do with us being jealous that he isn't in our team. He simply doesn't need the chip on the shoulder. Hopefully as he matures the arrogance will dissipate. (Moonlight Fit : can you understand that word - it means reduce)
I find it funny that you think that Tomkins is boo'ed because we're all jealous of him, but you admit to booing McGuire as you think he's a cheat! Classic Wigan! How does the chant go again.... oh yeah, "cheat, cheat, cheat" Brilliant that one

As for McGuire's try, it should have stood. I say that not simply because I'm a Leeds fan but because surely every drop goal should also be considered a knock on if that is the rule?
Enjoy your time Wigan, we most certainly did. Just hope you have a better coach replacement policy than ours.
Don't worry though, we'll be back
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Your comment would mean you believe that ONLY Sam does this? Crabtree at Huddersfield always uses his free arm to wrap it round the back of the neck of the tackler! Do you Boo him?
We didnt Boo McGuire last week! I dont recall any Wigan fans Booing an England player do you?
If your suggesting McGuire was going for a drop goal then oh dear!!
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| Quote ="AJC"What a classically pointless thread!
The reason most fans dislike Tomkins is purely down to his cheating antics and gamesmanship. Don't kid yourselves you don't know what we mean; the trapping of an opposition players arm under the ball; the holding on to an oppostion players shirt whilst being tackled etc. Its nothing to do with the fact he plays for Wigan, nothing to do with us being jealous that he isn't in our team. He simply doesn't need the chip on the shoulder. Hopefully as he matures the arrogance will dissipate. (Moonlight Fit : can you understand that word - it means reduce)
I find it funny that you think that Tomkins is boo'ed because we're all jealous of him, but you admit to booing McGuire as you think he's a cheat! Classic Wigan! How does the chant go again.... oh yeah, "cheat, cheat, cheat" Brilliant that one

As for McGuire's try, it should have stood. I say that not simply because I'm a Leeds fan but because surely every drop goal should also be considered a knock on if that is the rule?
hahahhahhahahahaha oh my love of leeds fans..... a drop goal why would he drop a goal there wen u needed to score....
Enjoy your time Wigan, we most certainly did. Just hope you have a better coach replacement policy than ours.
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| Quote ="juniorwarrior16"'"
Remarkable lack of lateral thinking (and no, that's not a reference to a flat pass!)
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| Quote ="AJC"What a classically pointless thread!
The reason most fans dislike Tomkins is purely down to his cheating antics and gamesmanship. Don't kid yourselves you don't know what we mean; the trapping of an opposition players arm under the ball; the holding on to an oppostion players shirt whilst being tackled etc. Its nothing to do with the fact he plays for Wigan, nothing to do with us being jealous that he isn't in our team. He simply doesn't need the chip on the shoulder. Hopefully as he matures the arrogance will dissipate. (Moonlight Fit : can you understand that word - it means reduce)
I find it funny that you think that Tomkins is boo'ed because we're all jealous of him, but you admit to booing McGuire as you think he's a cheat! Classic Wigan! How does the chant go again.... oh yeah, "cheat, cheat, cheat" Brilliant that one

As for McGuire's try, it should have stood. I say that not simply because I'm a Leeds fan but because surely every drop goal should also be considered a knock on if that is the rule?
as a neutral here,you make it sound as though Sam is the only offender here ! 'gamesmanship' or 'cheatin' or whtever you want to windowdress it as goes on in every game but loads of players trying it on to win over the ref.If the ref is canny enough he (or she) will know what's happeneing and let the play continue.Last nights game at Batley saw Mr Stokes get conned a couple of times by the players who won penalties with the more experienced players 'milking' the holding down etc.
I'd love to have Sam in my team as most fans would.I love watching him play even if it is for W***n,the man is class and will grow out of his childish antics.
As for McGuires' non try - correct decision for me though it would have been allowed if the VR hadn't been present.A 50/50 call which goes down to interpretation of the rules by the VR on the day.
BTW - i'd have McGuire in my team anyday too,what a player,'gamesmanship' 'n all.
Enjoy your time Wigan, we most certainly did. Just hope you have a better coach replacement policy than ours.
Don't worry though, we'll be back
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"
If your suggesting McGuire was going for a drop goal then oh dear!!'"
No, you wazzocks.
Im suggesting that if you have hold of the ball, then drop it to the ground with the intention of kicking it, it should (based on last fridays decision) be a knock on. Yet a drop goal is disallowed unless the ball has touched the ground first! Very inconsistent.
As regards big Eorl, never noticed him trapping with the ball, but I'll look out for it and boo accordingly  ironically enough Leeds wanted to sign the big fella, but ended up with the better prop from Hudds
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| Quote ="McRhino"Remarkable lack of lateral thinking (and no, that's not a reference to a flat pass!)'"
Indeed, but they're the mighty Wigan Warriors remember, the biggest team in the stratosphere. Maybe after 3 successive titles we'll start listening/understanding.
Happy Birthday by the way 
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| Quote ="AJC"No, you wazzocks.
Im suggesting that if you have hold of the ball, then drop it to the ground with the intention of kicking it, it should (based on last fridays decision) be a knock on. Yet a drop goal is disallowed unless the ball has touched the ground first! Very inconsistent.
As regards big Eorl, never noticed him trapping with the ball, but I'll look out for it and boo accordingly
ironically enough Leeds wanted to sign the big fella, but ended up with the better prop from Hudds'"
Answered your question! If its dropped its dropped regardless if they then kick it!! If they are attempting a drop goal thats completly different.
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