Plus the fact that there is prize money for winning it.

About £50k isn't it?

Pays for Smith and leaves some over for Green.

Thanks RFL

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Finishing top is a tremendous achievement that should receive more credit and recognition than it does. As opposed to getting a few grand and a crappy little dinner plate/hubcap they should get a proper trophy and a far better chance of winning the GF than the teams below them. You should truly have to implode to fail to win the GF from 1st. As it is, finishing top is no different really to finishing 2nd other than said crappy shield, a few grand and doing your opponents team talk in the semi final. If I was running the game, I would award the current SL trophy to the team that comes first. The GF winners would get a remake of the old Championship trophy, and it would be a top 5 system.

If we were to finish top but not win the GF then I'd see this season as a failure. There are two trophies worth winning and we won't have won either. It won't be us in the WCC or referred to as Champions and it won't be us shown lifting the CC on BBC every time there is Rugby League on. Winning the shield and seeing it as a success for a club like us would be like Man Utd claiming winning just the Community Shield as a success despite not winning the FA Cup, PL or CL.

It should be a success but the fact is.........it isn't.

But it's not a "real" trophy is it?

Absolutely. The issue is though that the rules were in place BEFORE the season started. Everyone knew this before a ball was kicked in anger.

Winning the shield, under the current rules means very very little. You can argue all you like about whether it should mean more, but currently it does not.

If it did mean more, then Warrington would have won tonight.

They rested players - they probably didn't care, but neither do I. They got destroyed.

It was for Warrington when they 'won the league' last year.

I do agree with you I think the season as it is would be deemed a failure if we don't reach the Grand Final mainly because we'd get zero recognition for a great achievement. I am pro play offs I only wish those in charge would lay more prestige on the LLS.

Be negative all you want.

For me and many others it's seen as something to celebrate.

I think that's the main problem with it.
If a team wins it then doesn't get the Gf they feel hard done by, and rightly so. Wire were the best team last year and have very little to show for it. If we do the same this year it will be the same. If you look around the world this is the way a lot of sport is done its just that it's weird for us as the main sport in this country is football and RL hasn't always has playoffs.

For what it's worth I like the playoffs that feeling at old Trafford in 2010 was unbeatable.

Feel free. Just as long as you appreciate that it's not what the season is all about. In fact it's largely incidental.

Much like the Challenge Cup

Yet your under 20's got beat by Widnes

Not by that score we didn't.

I am hearing from a couple of Wire fans that that a few members of the Squad were slightly "unapologetic" to the Wolfs support at the end of the game.....

Yet still got beat doesn't matter by what score a defeat is a defeat

Not when our points difference is that superior to yours it isn't

Sounds like the fans and players were arguing again.

Awful club.

Finishing top of the pile should mean much more than it should. I have no doubt that it means a lot to the fans. It did to me last year, and congratulations to you for what looks like success this year.

The biggest problem is that the RFL dont view it as an important acheivement. This leads to coaches managing their teams in a way that doesn't view the it as an important acheivement. Both Wigan and Warrington would like to finish top, but both at some point have taken risks with their teams which show they dont NEED to finish top.

I love the play off system but wish the powers that be gave the league equal prestige. I would have loved to finish top again this year, and well done to you for doing so, just a shame it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme

I think the record goes back way beyond 2010 if you feel like a little homework.

Sadly finishing top means nothing any more, as long as you finish in the top 2 it's fine, the play-offs is where it's at nowadays

Still we'll have the £50,000 - but that probably doesn't mean a lot to Moran.

If a defeat is a defeat then why do you have that avatar?