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Quote: Cokey "I thought you were against a fans return?'"


So that means I can't have an opinion on how to distribute tickets?

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Quote: Egg Chasing "So that means I can't have an opinion on how to distribute tickets?'"


Quote: Egg Chasing "And everyone arriving around the same time. All needs to be staggered.'"


No mention of tickets here. It sounds like you're in favour of a fans return to some capacity which is what i have been saying on the VT that you've been challenging.

Talking hypothetical, If the government said they would be prepared to trial a pilot scheme for the challenge cup final with a certain amount of fans to be allowed in, and Wigan made the final.Would you want to attend? or by your principal, you would rather not,so as to not take the risk of catching Covid?

You are either for or against a fans return. You have made it clear on the VT that you're totally against it, yet on here you talk as if it could be possible as shown in the quote above.

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Quote: Grimmy "I am. I think the risk when people are leaving is too high. As explained in the part of my quote you deleted.'"


Simply because it contradicts the first part of your post,so i quoted the part that was relevant.You are either for or against a fans return,which one is it?

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Quote: Cokey "Simply because it contradicts the first part of your post,so i quoted the part that was relevant.You are either for or against a fans return,which one is it?'"

I am against it. I think the risk when people are leaving is too high. As explained in the part of my quote you deleted.

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Quote: Grimmy "I am against it. I think the risk when people are leaving is too high. As explained in the part of my quote you deleted.'"


Yes i agree that part of your post suggest it's a bad idea, .......but the other part of your quote suggest otherwise. See below.

Quote: Grimmy "Yeah i think some staggering naturally happens when people arrive, I can see how that could be managed with advance warnings that it will take longer than usual for people to go in, stewards ensuring people distance whilst queueing to get in, and don't hang around on the concourse once they are in (might have to close the kiosks to help this) and outside you have unlimited space to queue in.'"


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Quote: Cokey "No mention of tickets here. It sounds like you're in favour of a fans return to some capacity which is what i have been saying on the VT that you've been challenging.

Talking hypothetical, If the government said they would be prepared to trial a pilot scheme for the challenge cup final with a certain amount of fans to be allowed in, and Wigan made the final.Would you want to attend? or by your principal, you would rather not,so as to not take the risk of catching Covid?

You are either for or against a fans return. You have made it clear on the VT that you're totally against it, yet on here you talk as if it could be possible as shown in the quote above.'"


Quoting someones post from a week before the new rules were put in place when there was a possibility that the Saints game would go ahead and when the person is talking "hypothetically" about how 1000 tickets "Could" be distributed is a LONG WAY from looking at it over a week or so later when new lock down rules have been put in place because of the 2nd wave and Trials of sporting events have been put back/called off and then trying to make out people are contradicting themselves.

Let's make it simple
The people you are arguing with DON'T THINK it would be a good idea to petition the government etc. to allow limited numbers of fans into games in the current climate for lots of reasons, and they've expanded on some of them.
When you then add in all of the costs involved in making this happen, and for what benefit the game itself would get out of it in the current escalating climate and I too don't think it would be a good idea.
You crack on, go ahead with the petition, that's your right, no-ones stopping you, no-one says it's impossible to do, they're just saying is it worth the risk

If the government do trial it each individual would have to make their own call, would I go, Yes
Do I think we should petition the government and then ask clubs to incur potential extra costs and put people "At Risk" (Not that it is definite that something will go wrong, but increasing the risk that it will and for very small benefit) then no, I don't.

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Quote: Jukesays "Quoting someones post from a week before the new rules were put in place when there was a possibility that the Saints game would go ahead and when the person is talking "hypothetically" about how 1000 tickets "Could" be distributed is a LONG WAY from looking at it over a week or so later when new lock down rules have been put in place because of the 2nd wave and Trials of sporting events have been put back/called off and then trying to make out people are contradicting themselves.

Let's make it simple
The people you are arguing with DON'T THINK it would be a good idea to petition the government etc. to allow limited numbers of fans into games in the current climate for lots of reasons, and they've expanded on some of them.
When you then add in all of the costs involved in making this happen, and for what benefit the game itself would get out of it in the current escalating climate and I too don't think it would be a good idea.
You crack on, go ahead with the petition, that's your right, no-ones stopping you, no-one says it's impossible to do, they're just saying is it worth the risk

If the government do trial it each individual would have to make their own call, would I go, Yes
Do I think we should petition the government and then ask clubs to incur potential extra costs and put people "At Risk" (Not that it is definite that something will go wrong, but increasing the risk that it will and for very small benefit) then no, I don't.'"


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Quote: Jukesays "No I haven't

I have said that I don't believe for the good of the game/clubs finances it's worth considering at this moment especially when the government are tightening rules not reducing them, and I certainly don't think it's worth petitioning about and getting involved in petty little squabbles about the Phraseology that other posters are using and I can't decide if your being obtuse or not because it's quite simple

As it stands I won't go - because I can't go
If they change the rule then I will make a choice to whether go or not go because I won't be breaking the law - That isn't Contradictory, it isn't even hypocrisy because it's 2 different situations.

All the ones you are arguing with are saying the same thing - It's understandable CURRENTLY that the rules aren't changing and we are not allowed fans back in any way (For gods sake even PL Football with it's Billions can't get fans in).

If they do the change the clubs will be under vast amounts of pressure and cost to accommodate, will that be worth it, Suppose that would be up to each club to do their due diligence, but as it stands it's a Moot point because they can't.

And I would have stab in the dark you would have no idea what would be involved in reopening a venue for fans and the amount of work involved in making it compliant - Simply wanting it to happen isn't good enough, there are Hundreds of issues to resolve to Make it happen

I'm sure your chief executive will be working all Hours he can to facilitate it when it is reasonably practical, safe, cost effective & Legal to do so.
Or at least he will once he's sorted a job out for me that he's been promising for ages
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