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| im guessing Mr No It All will prove once again that he actually Knows F**k All
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| Quote ="[Gareth"im guessing Mr No It All will prove once again that he actually Knows F**k All'"
He has previous?
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| sam tomkins has next season with wigan then he is off to ru.to be honest it's a short career good luck to the lad
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| Well the new and improved contract will make him the highest earner at Wigan, maybe in Super League too. Also pressure on the RFL to make adjustments to the SC to stop other players leaving.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Well the new and improved contract will make him the highest earner at Wigan, maybe in Super League too. Also pressure on the RFL to make adjustments to the SC to stop other players leaving.'"
I really do hope you "No It All" I would have thought Sam would be pretty high up on highest earners if not top already.
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| I was told something very interesting today on this subject.
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| Quote ="St pete"I was told something very interesting today on this subject.'"
Congratulations.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Well the new and improved contract will make him the highest earner at Wigan, maybe in Super League too. Also pressure on the RFL to make adjustments to the SC to stop other players leaving.'"
Well if Joel goes you'll have cap money. What adjustments would you suggest would be possible? Even raising the cap wouldnt be enough I dont think. Maybe some kind of percentage dispensation for 'home grown' players?
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Congratulations.'"
Thank you.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Well if Joel goes you'll have cap money. What adjustments would you suggest would be possible? Even raising the cap wouldnt be enough I dont think. Maybe some kind of percentage dispensation for 'home grown' players?'"
Think thats what they are pushing at, or a suggestion on here too is a 'marquee player'
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| Quote ="DANN"He hardly ever played at full back in union and cant even remember one occasion in league. You can get away with it on the wing which is where his best position was in both union and league. Numbers 10 and 15 get you around the park.
Sam will eventually go to union but I dont think hes ideally suited for it. Wingers or Centres are the only players that hardly have to change their game to switch successfully'"
he played most of his career at fullback at RU
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"Well if Joel goes you'll have cap money. What adjustments would you suggest would be possible? Even raising the cap wouldnt be enough I dont think. =#FF0000Maybe some kind of percentage dispensation for 'home grown' players?'"
I've been putting that argument forward for over five years.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Think thats what they are pushing at, or a suggestion on here too is a 'marquee player''"
I would be interested to see what effect having a 'marquee player' would have on moral at SL clubs , it may cause resentment. A dispensation for home grown players would encourage clubs to invest in youth rather than quick fixes and maybe give teams the clout to retain more star players and maybe up the quality of a smaller number of overseas players.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've been putting that argument forward for over five years.'"
Well it's something we agree on then. I don't think it would get many votes over at HKR though 
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I've been putting that argument forward for over five years.'"
I've also been saying the same thing. The RFL have to look at this before we lose anymore good young players.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Think thats what they are pushing at, or a suggestion on here too is a 'marquee player''"
Your have previously stated there WILL be a marquee signing, do you really know it all?
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Your have previously stated there WILL be a marquee signing, do you really know it all?'"
Where have I mentioned this? It's one of our Marquee players signing a new deal.
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| Quote ="Mr.No.It.All"Where have I mentioned this? It's one of our Marquee players signing a new deal.'"
Ahhh sorry miss read thought you wrote major marquee player signing, my faith in you is restored  .
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"I would be interested to see what effect having a 'marquee player' would have on moral at SL clubs , it may cause resentment. A dispensation for home grown players would encourage clubs to invest in youth rather than quick fixes and maybe give teams the clout to retain more star players and maybe up the quality of a smaller number of overseas players.'"
I dont think Wakey would go for that!
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| Quote ="St pete"I've also been saying the same thing. The RFL have to look at this before we lose anymore good young players.'"
Talent makes players famous. It's fame that makes them rich. Union's profile is, and will probably remain, much higher than ours. Consequently it will continue to attract young players regardless of the money we're able to offer. It might make the difference in retaining the odd player but I doubt it will make the hige difference that some envisage.
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| Makes me laugh looks like profile is the new word. You lot dont half big RU up. Di*kheads
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Talent makes players famous. It's fame that makes them rich. Union's profile is, and will probably remain, much higher than ours. Consequently it will continue to attract young players regardless of the money we're able to offer. It might make the difference in retaining the odd player but I doubt it will make the hige difference that some envisage.'"
I'd bet my life both Joel and Sam would stay at Wigan if they could pay them what union can.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'd bet my life both Joel and Sam would stay at Wigan if they could pay them what union can.'"
I agree some of these wigan fans do a good job of bigging union up
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| Quote ="RLFC2008"I agree some of these wigan fans do a good job of bigging union up'"
I don't Blame any player going for the money as it's not just a game to players, it's a job and only short career but it would be nice if clubs could compete with union to keep our home grown players. These clubs have invested a lot of time and money in these players but just can't compete money wise.
The should be a thing put in place that young home grown players salary dont fully count on the cap.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'd bet my life both Joel and Sam would stay at Wigan if they could pay them what union can.'"
I agree. In March this year Joel said:
“I’m happy at Wigan, there are too many horror stories about people going to Union and playing reserve grade and they just get lost."
“I’m happy at Wigan playing in this team. We’ve got a backbone of young players here and I want to stay around and play rugby with my best friends.”
But also from the same article:
“Union can offer a lot more money. In a way it isn’t fair, but if there’s s club offering a young lad twice what he’s earning at a Super League club, or even three or four times, then you can’t blame them for signing it.”
[urlhttp://www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/03/09/joel-tomkins-ive-got-no-desire-to-leave-wigan-for-rugby-union/[/url
He made no mention of International honours in RU at all as a reason for players switching. Just money as why a player may make the move.
I have said before we could allow players to earn more even if the clubs can't afford it by taking things like sponsorships, image rights and product endorsements out of a players salary cap value calculation but the flat earth brigade object.
Whatever, at the moment RL and the RFL seem to have their head in the sands, shrug it off as if it isn't problem and so are doing [iabsolutely nothing [/ito try and address the issue.
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