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I completely 100% agree that Goulding should be in the squad.

But...

I don't think that it is as clear cut re: the hooking position as for me Houghton has been outstanding for Hull this season too. There is no doubting that McIlorum has been very good for you this season, but you have to admit that he is playing off such a dominant pack that it makes his job a lot easier than say Houghton who isn't playing behind such a dominant pack, so for me it's a toss up between Houghton and McIlorum - Burrow's inclusion is laughable though.

I am not trying to be controversial what so ever here, I'm just stating what I think, but for me Roby has been the form hooker (apart from in games against you were you base your whole defensive game-plan around him, and so you should as he is our only viable threat) and it's a tough choice between Houghton and McIlorum for who should be the 'second hooker'. Although I'd have been tempted to try both McIlorum and Houghton in this game as we know what Roby can do.

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Quote: Albion "Roby has been the form hooker (apart from in games against you were you base your whole defensive game-plan around him, and so you should as he is our only viable threat)'"


What an interesting way of saying that while Roby is your best player he has still been ineffectual against Wigan this season. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Deano G "What an interesting way of saying that while Roby is your best player he has still been ineffectual against Wigan this season.
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Quote: cadoo "Well to my absolute astonishment and disbelief Leroy Cudjoe has been picked over Darrell Goulding. This is despite Cudjoe playing in a Huddersfield team that is on a well documented downward slide in this last month & Goulding playing his part in the best on form centre/wing partnership in Super League who are on an equally well reported upward spiral. Josh Charnley is the runaway leading try scorer & his inside centre is on red hot form in Daz Goulding. All the above are facts. Statistically Daz blows him out the water too and not pick on reputation or who his old pals are. Carl Ablett? Still religiously picking a 35-year old ancient relic in Jamie Peacock as captain? Jon Wilkin?

The whole international setup is typical British BS. We picked a man who was evidently grossly incompetent at club level for the highest position in English RL with the requirements that he had to be full-time and he had to be British & we're now stuck with arguably the most talented group of players we've had in the last decade with a realistic chance of perhaps winning the World Cup being led by an utterly incapable & inexperienced Yorkshire moron.'"

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Quote: Albion "I am not trying to be controversial what so ever here, I'm just stating what I think, but for me Roby has been the form hooker (apart from in games against you were you base your whole defensive game-plan around him, and so you should as he is our only viable threat) '"


You are being far too generous there. We dont defend any differently against Saints than anyone else and certainly make no special plans for Roby. We tackle well, control the collision, have 3 men in the tackle etc just like we do every game and that just happens to nullify Roby, and therefore Saints. We dont do it especially against Saints its just that Saints have no plan B when Roby is nullified.

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Quote: Famous "You are being far too generous there. We dont defend any differently against Saints than anyone else and certainly make no special plans for Roby. We tackle well, control the collision, have 3 men in the tackle etc just like we do every game and that just happens to nullify Roby, and therefore Saints. We dont do it especially against Saints its just that Saints have no plan B when Roby is nullified.'"


Come on everyone knows it: Saints' only threat is Roby, so why wouldn't you base your game-plan around keeping him quiet?

Anyway why are you all jumping on an irrelevant point in terms of this thread?!

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It really should come down to something as simple as Charnley and Goulding are an inform partnership at SL level so why split it up at international level?? McNamara really doesn't have a clue!! 1st he goes to Australia with a list of players who can play for England and now this!! Prepare for humiliation on home soil at RLWC2013

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Quote: Albion "Come on everyone knows it

We dont though, we defend as normal and it doesnt really take any special treatment to keep Roby quiet. That just happens to mean that Saints dont get a quick play the ball and Roby cant do his trick. If he offered a little more in attack and was a little less predictable then maybe he wouldnt be so easy to nullify.

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Quote: Famous "We dont though, we defend as normal and it doesnt really take any special treatment to keep Roby quiet. That just happens to mean that Saints dont get a quick play the ball and Roby cant do his trick. If he offered a little more in attack and was a little less predictable then maybe he wouldnt be so easy to nullify.'"


Well done for repeating yourself! Anyway the Roby thing has been discussed to death...

We should be looking at a team like this for the WC:

Tomkins
Briscoe/Hall/Charnley
Reed
Goulding/Atkins
Briscoe/Hall/Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Ellis
Hock
O'Loughlin

Pretty impressive side I think.

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Quote: Albion "Well done for repeating yourself! Anyway the Roby thing has been discussed to death..'"


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