BK - I sympathise. You and I and others have attempted to have a rational debate with people on the salary cap, but sensible pro-cap people seem to be extremely thin on the ground as far as this board is concerned. Instead we get nonsensical, bile filled anti-Wigan rants.

Even worse than this though has been a real trend recently on fairly uncontentious subjects of fans of other clubs simply posting nonsense in a deliberate attempt to derail threads or cause irritation - a very recent example being the imbecilic posts on the "Man of Steel" thread. Nothing in that thread deserved idiotic comments.

I know these boards are meant to be for all RL fans but things do appear to be getting a bit out of hand recently on this board, particularly with the moronic posts clogging up threads. I'm not sure what the answer is but from some of the posts on this thread it clearly is a factor in dissuading some people from using this site more often, which is a real shame.

There is quite a simple reason why your board get's over ran with trolls and people having a pop, it's due to many of your fans starting threads berating other teams or hijacking threads on other boards by posting constant rubbish and going on about history so it's only natural for it too happen back on here. Take the Myler 300k thread as an example, people's biased views are clouding what's actually in front of them, you'd be very excited at the prsopect of him playing in the famour cherry and whitebut because he's going somewhere else he's no good?

Maybe having people from other boards is a good thing as it can often give a different perspective on a debate. Particularly before and after a match when you have played a a particular team.

Of course their are trolls and the mods deal with them .

However, i belief that your issue goes somewhat deeper and more reflects your state of mind and attitude. It is quite clear from your post on the VT that your demoralisation about Wigan and RL in general, inability to accept the SC, franchising etc and the fact that you are going to be supporting RU in 10 years ( your words not mine) is the real caus eof your disillusionment.

I love the amateur psychology. BK, it seems that the SC is rather like a death in the family, you need to "accept" it or you will continue to suffer from psychological trauma. Apparently.

If I were to engage in some amatueur psychology I'd say that you Durham Giant were the one "in denial" if you are unable to accept that there are some very serious problems with the structure and management of RL in this country.

But this is a bit of a sideshow, albeit an amusing one. The issue is not with BK but with moronic visitors to this board.

No one is saying that fans of other clubs should not post on this board, but BK is right to highlight a growing trend of fans of other clubs posting nonsense on this board.

Spin it how you will. 300K for Myler is ludicrous. His agent must be laughing his stones off.

It isn't 300k, who is bothered anyway? The money will be more than likely coming from Mr Moran and the ironic thing is that the majority of you have probably been to one of his promoted concerts thus help us pay the fee.

It's still bloody ludicrous, and will set a new benchmark for Wire signings from now on. They'll all know what to ask.

We made the same mistake years ago.

i agree pal wigan fans would of been the first ones on the wire or saints boards had we beat them but when we lose people think cant take it

these boards are about banter, opinion, discussion and alot of the time for me a way to pass 10mins in work like you said there are other boards out there if people are not satisfied and mods do remove anything that goes to far

theres any of half a dozen if you look around the net.

theres nothing wrong with other fans coming on here imo.
im sure the mods can tell the difference between banter and abuse , and take the appropriate action.

unfortunately , there are other boards on RLFans wher you get savaged for having the audacity to post on em. You get abused , and the mods take the side of the "home" fans.

thankfully this board has fair and unbiased mods, which is probably why its the best

memo to all mods.......you can slip me the tenner when you see me

BK's comments weren't aimed at all non Wigan fans on here but at the number of them that are hell bent on mischief. There are far too many posters on here who offer zero to any debate and are here simply to take the p1$$.

Also, the argument that they are only on here as a result of us posting on their sites is ludicrous. They are on here because they are anti-Wigan, pure and simple and, whilst I don't want to be telling Mods what to do, I thought this site was primarily here for those of us that actually support the club, secondarily for those from other clubs that wished to actually participate in the debate.

I find the attitude of " ah well, we won loads of titles years back, so let them come on here and laugh at our expense" lamentable. But, I suppose it's a free world. ATEOTD all I can do is leave the site permanently or continue sighing heavily as I wade through oceans of tripe looking for the occasional worthwhile post.

Actually that one is a serious point.

On the Wire site we get plenty of Wigan posters who come on with a patronising 'poor little Wire' kind of attitude, and that does encourage people to then come on here in response when something goes against you.

Not my style, but it can't be ignored as a reason.

It's not your style, neither is it mine. However, I am willing to bet that any Wigan posters causing mischief on your site are dealt with, rather than tolerated as on here.

Wolfette actually banned me a while ago when she got hold of the wrong end of the stick! Actually, she recently gave an example of how it should be done. She saw a thread on here that she disagreed with but instead of jumping in she set up a thread on the Wolves board about it - isn't that the best way forward?

I actually think that's more likely to encourage people who wouldn't normally post on this board to do so.

There will always be opinions which don't run parallel to your own, but it's very easy to ignore. If someone is obviously just trying to annoy and cause mischief, just don't give them the time of day.

On any of the club boards there'll always be more of the native fans talking pap than the oppo anyway. There are some right loons over on theentertainers (sic) and redvee - but the likes of Rogues raises some interesting points and is very welcome. There are of course others but hey, who cares?