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Quote: MattyB "Not saying that, its the fact you said 'loads' which I doubted.

I have been watching Wigan for thirty years and in my opinion, Sam is the most exciting Wigan youngster since Shaun Edwards, in fact I'd say Sam is arguably slightly ahead than Shaun was at 22.'"


I honestly can't comment on that.

However, when I said loads I was referring to the fact that I see a lot of people who have a track record ahead of Sam at the moment and I don't think I am in the minority.

I have said that he is class and has that golden aspect; potential. He is reaching all the goals I think people are setting out for him. But, as I have said he has the niggly quality (such as trapping the arm) that other fans really hate. I am sure that is something that endears him to Wigan fans (as a Wire who likes Lee Briers, I get it) but he isn't making himself any friends in the terraces outside of Wigan with his school boy antics.

That is the reason I think this booing campaign has started.

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Quote: jdrocket "Joey Johns and
Jamie Lyon

for a start


They are the two clear examples and I personally hold that other people I have seen play have been better than what I have seen of Sam.

I don't want to get into a dick measuring match. I was merely offering an alternative perspective than the one that had been mentioned.'"


Joey Johns didnt in super league...and forget the start keep going into the hole.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Let's give him the nickname booo.

So every time the opposition boo him they're actually cheering him.'"


It worked well last night.

So to plan B

Next week when we play Leeds we cheer (politely) every time one of the Leeds England players gets the ball.

That'll confuse the hell out of their players, speccies and the Sky team.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It worked well last night.

So to plan B

Next week when we play Leeds we cheer (politely) every time one of the Leeds England players gets the ball.

That'll confuse the hell out of their players, speccies and the Sky team.'"


Mentioned that to my mate last night decided it may be a little distracting though.

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They can see how good he is and they are trying to put him off his game, its not going to last too long when they realise its not affecting him and he's actually playing better because of it... if teams and fans are targeting sam then it just gives the rest of the team space to run riot

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Quote: black and white "i think tompkins gets boos for a reason'"

eeeerrrrrr because he is good!!!! a010.gif icon_ass.gif icon_ass.gif icon_ass.gif

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Quote: daveydj17 "eeeerrrrrr because he is good!!!!
So is Jamie Peacock but he doesn't get booed.

Sam gets booed because he's cocky. Given his position and quality though it's understandable.

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Quote: jdrocket "I've not booed him and I can see he isa great player.

But maybe he is being booed because he is such a niggly character. It is true he cheats a lot and in the game of rugby league (a man's sport [and lot us not forget the gentleman beginnings of the sport in the late nineteenth century])

Maybe he annoys the crowd not for us ability to score (or not alone) maybe they would prefer to be outclassed.

There are loads of players who are a lot better than Tomkins that I have had the pleasure of seeing and I can't think of them getting booed.

It is fair to say he is talented but he is also, to put it as eloquently as possible, a niggly, scrawny cheat. eeeeerrrrrrr nope, c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif c015.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It worked well last night.

So to plan B

Next week when we play Leeds we cheer (politely) every time one of the Leeds England players gets the ball.

That'll confuse the hell out of their players, speccies and the Sky team.'"


They seemed confused enough when you were booing Sam last night icon_lol.gif
Completely out of the loop, those lot!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It worked well last night.

So to plan B

Next week when we play Leeds we cheer (politely) every time one of the Leeds England players gets the ball.

That'll confuse the hell out of their players, speccies and the Sky team.'"


this is getting complicated now icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It worked well last night.

So to plan B

Next week when we play Leeds we cheer (politely) every time one of the Leeds England players gets the ball.

That'll confuse the hell out of their players, speccies and the Sky team.'"


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If we're cheering Leeds' England players we need to do it on a noticeably ironic way, e.g. by shouting "Hooray!!" in an exaggerated, RU-esque manner.

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Quote: jdrocket "I honestly can't comment on that.

However, when I said loads I was referring to the fact that I see a lot of people who have a track record ahead of Sam at the moment and I don't think I am in the minority.

I have said that he is class and has that golden aspect; potential. He is reaching all the goals I think people are setting out for him. But, as I have said he has the niggly quality (such as trapping the arm) that other fans really hate. I am sure that is something that endears him to Wigan fans (as a Wire who likes Lee Briers, I get it) but he isn't making himself any friends in the terraces outside of Wigan with his school boy antics.

That is the reason I think this booing campaign has started.'"


This.

Sam Tomkins isn't getting boo'd purely on the basis of his talent. I'm against booing him completely, however anyone who thinks Tomkins is getting boo'd exclusively because of his ability reveals quite a narrow-minded victim complex on their part. It doesn't justify booing a player who plays for England whom everyone someone be supportive of, however the niggly part of Tomkins game is what has bred this booing compaign.

You can argue that the 'niggly' factor is part of his drive which makes him different from other players, but he needs to concentrate on eliminating the deceptive part of his game if he is ever to be considered in the league of 'classy' and respected players such as Cunningham and the like.

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