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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Ainscough was awful last night against fev'"


Could Ainscough be going the way Kevin Brown went when he was at Wigan? Believing his own hype and getting too big for his boots?

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Ainscough I think is a great finisher given the chance. He just needs some time to develop the rest of his game. Last night he didn't really have much of the ball but he will improve. Ben Davies however will be in a Wigan shirt next season, he is too good to stay with us. Could see him being in an England shirt in a season or two, very bright future same to be said with Farrell.

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Quote: Mother Feka "Could Ainscough be going the way Kevin Brown went when he was at Wigan? Believing his own hype and getting too big for his boots?'"


Where is the evidence he has an attitude problem? He gave an interview about not playing for Cas v Wigan and in that came across as if he had his head screwed on properly and he seems to have accepted he must wait for his chance a while yet.

People need to get off his back and give up with the exaggeration on how poor his defence is and we don't need to start a myth he has an attitude problem, though he could be forgiven for being a bit miffed that his only chance this season in the first team was in that side v Quins.

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Quote: DaveO "Where is the evidence he has an attitude problem? He gave an interview about not playing for Cas v Wigan and in that came across as if he had his head screwed on properly and he seems to have accepted he must wait for his chance a while yet.

People need to get off his back and give up with the exaggeration on how poor his defence is and we don't need to start a myth he has an attitude problem, though he could be forgiven for being a bit miffed that his only chance this season in the first team was in that side v Quins.

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Where have i said he has an attitude problem? I think you need to start reading peoples posts properly before jumping on their backs.

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Quote: DaveO "Where is the evidence he has an attitude problem? He gave an interview about not playing for Cas v Wigan and in that came across as if he had his head screwed on properly and he seems to have accepted he must wait for his chance a while yet.

People need to get off his back and give up with the exaggeration on how poor his defence is and we don't need to start a myth he has an attitude problem, though he could be forgiven for being a bit miffed that his only chance this season in the first team was in that side v Quins.

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I agree with you on the attitude front Dave. The defence issue sadly is not exaggerated, the problems are there and are often very costly and occur whatever level he is playing at. That doesn't mean that they cannot be fixed, hopefully they can be.

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Quote: Mother Feka "Where have i said he has an attitude problem? I think you need to start reading peoples posts properly before jumping on their backs.'"


So you don't think "Believing his own hype and getting too big for his boots" is an attitude problem? If not what is it? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: DaveO "So you don't think "Believing his own hype and getting too big for his boots" is an attitude problem? If not what is it?
Again, read my post properly. I said 'Could this be a case of...' I was just asking the question based on the fact that he cant get a game and looks extremely out of favour at Wigan.

Personally I have no idea what Ainscoughs attitude is at all. And I dont want him to fail, im a massive fan of his and I think that if he can prove himself to Maguire and Roberts Starts at fullback next year then there is no reason why he cant be given the number 2 shirt, because we all know what he can do when he's on form.

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Quote: Mother Feka "Again, read my post properly. I said 'Could this be a case of...' I was just asking the question based on the fact that he cant get a game and looks extremely out of favour at Wigan. '"


I did read your post properly and if you ask the question you must think it is a possibility or why post it?

So if you don't think it is possible I don't understand why you asked the question given you must have seen how he has conducted himself this year which is why I replied. Questions like that have a habit of becoming the next myth that is considered a fact in a very short space of time on here.

There was speculation last year when he injured his wrist he did it in a fight rather than a training accident. If that was how he conducted himself he'd be gone by now IMO.

Quote: Mother Feka "Personally I have no idea what Ainscoughs attitude is at all. And I dont want him to fail, im a massive fan of his and I think that if he can prove himself to Maguire and Roberts Starts at fullback next year then there is no reason why he cant be given the number 2 shirt, because we all know what he can do when he's on form.'"


I think there is every chance he will play for us again this year if Phelps does not improve. If Phepls falls out of favour and Roberts goes to full back on his return that leaves no cover at wing or centre unless we really want Bailey to play in the centres again. So an injury to either winger or either centre could see him called back again if things pan out like that.

What might prevent that is the fact Pryce doesn't qualify for dual reg status and may well be too expensive to be attractive to other clubs to be a loan target (which is why I think he has been stuck in the reserves and not loaned out already). So we may see Pryce get further opportunities for this reason instead of Ainscough. It's not just about form.

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Quote: "Could Ainscough be going the way Kevin Brown went when he was at Wigan? Believing his own hype and getting too big for his boots?'"


No ............. and a question like this is just a statement to make others who jump on the bandwaggon to slag him off.

DaveO is right his defence issues are greatly exaggerated - mainly last year to justify dropping him when he was playing well and has carried on this year. I think at his age he has parts of his game to improve and I'm sure that's what the team at Wigan are paid an enormous amount of money to do - improve every players game.

Could understand the crap if he were a senior player and paid 100 grand and not performing but he's a young player with potential and the will to want to improve I'm sure.

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Quote: fido "No ............. and a question like this is just a statement to make others who jump on the bandwaggon to slag him off.

DaveO is right his defence issues are greatly exaggerated - mainly last year to justify dropping him when he was playing well and has carried on this year. I think at his age he has parts of his game to improve and I'm sure that's what the team at Wigan are paid an enormous amount of money to do - improve every players game.

Could understand the crap if he were a senior player and paid 100 grand and not performing but he's a young player with potential and the will to want to improve I'm sure.'"


I can promise you, there's no way that MF meant it as a statement to make others jump on the bandwagon, you may wanna back the hell off having a dig like that.

His defence issues are both exaggerated, and understated, they don't make him rubbish in the same way that his attacking prowess doesn't make him god and override them. As stated he's a young lad with some flaws in his game that hopefully will develop over time, and as one of our players we should all be behind him 100%

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Christ, ask a genuine question on here and get treated like your a member of the taliban.

Apologies, i forgot that your not allowed to question or criticise our precious home grown talent in any way, ill make sure next time that I will question players who dont have that protective Wigan bubble around them ala Pryce, Fielden, Riddell and Phelps icon_rolleyes.gif

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Exactly. Ainscough is untouchable on here. His little army will be on their way, pitch forks at the ready.

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Quote: AJ "Exactly. Ainscough is untouchable on here. His little army will be on their way, pitch forks at the ready.'"


Its not like I said anything bad though, i dont know Ainscough so dont know what his attitude is like, all that was needed to be said was 'this wont happen because Ainscough has a fantastic attitude' but no, they read what they want to and try start a fecking war. icon_lol.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: AJ "Exactly. Ainscough is untouchable on here. His little army will be on their way, pitch forks at the ready.'"


Well, he was clearly at fault for all three of Quins first half tries today - he was completely out of position, might as well not have been on the pitch... icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Mother Feka "Its not like I said anything bad though, i dont know Ainscough so dont know what his attitude is like, all that was needed to be said was 'this wont happen because Ainscough has a fantastic attitude' but no, they read what they want to and try start a fecking war.
Repost it about Pryce, Bailey or Riddell or anyone Noble signed. They will be having fits to get to the keyboard to agree.

Ainscough IS NOT as good as he is talked up to be.

Should he have had more chances, possibly, but Goulding has rightly kept him out of the side. He had a chance last week, and was average in all aspects of the game.

Just because he is from Wigan doesn't make him good enough to automatically be selected.

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