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| Quote: jonh "Achievement is relative, its not about winning trophies it is about maximising your resources Morgan in relative terms is a far more successful coach than Noble.'"
Personally I'd be more than happy with trophies.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: jonh "Morgan has done more in his short time, up against it, than Noble ever has. Achievement is relative, its not about winning trophies it is about maximising your resources Morgan in relative terms is a far more successful coach than Noble.
The other thing is his players seem to buy into him and play for him. I am not convinced outside Bradford the same can be said for Noble.'"
Noble has taken us from rock bottom to being a title challenging side in the previous 2 seasons. We have finished 2nd for the last 2 years and made 2 challenge cup semi finals.
Morgan has taken Hull KR from the 2nd tier to a few bottom half of the table finishes.
This season I have not included for either teams as it's not over yet.
Some would argue that Noble has taken us further.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Catalancs "Personally I'd be more than happy with trophies.'"
I will personally wee my pants with joy if we win a trophy this season.
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| Quote: odemwingie "I will personally wee my pants with joy if we win a trophy this season.'"
I'll wee on your pants if we win a trophy this season.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: piemandan "I'll wee on your pants if we win a trophy this season.'"
Was that some sort of chat up line
Seriously though, no thanks
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| Quote: Catalancs "Personally I'd be more than happy with trophies.'"
But its all relative.
Regards Morgan he has punched way above his weight with 2 clubs now. In my opinion Noble has not.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: jonh "But its all relative.
Regards Morgan he has punched way above his weight with 2 clubs now. In my opinion Noble has not.'"
Could that not mean he has overachieved with those clube then?
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| All I was trying to do was put some reality back into the equation.
Morgan was "flavour of the month" from the we want Noble out campaigners.
What would they be saying now if we had been humiliated by Harlequins?
Or would they be shouting "get Brian McDermott in"
Bear in mind, that McDermott is from the same coaching school as Brian Noble.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "All I was trying to do was put some reality back into the equation.
Morgan was "flavour of the month" from the we want Noble out campaigners.
What would they be saying now if we had been humiliated by Harlequins?
Or would they be shouting "get Brian McDermott in"
Bear in mind, that McDermott is from the same coaching school as Brian Noble.'"
Well personally I am not that fickle, im not sure given the players KR had out today they were expected to win, Quins are a talented side when they want to be but generally they are very dour dull and make basic errors time and time again. They are capable of the odd anomaly good performance though they certainly have the players.........same coaching pool as Noble..........interesting.
The coaching pool argument is something i have highlighted for a while, tonight in my opinion adds more evidence into the theory.
An overachieveing team has a bad night, missing key players but still underperforms, Quins an frustrating under performing team hit the straps, then will get run through next week putting in a shocking performance.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "What would they be saying now if we had been humiliated by Harlequins'"
Par for the course?
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| Quote: odemwingie "Noble has taken us from rock bottom to being a title challenging side in the previous 2 seasons. We have finished 2nd for the last 2 years and made 2 challenge cup semi finals.
Morgan has taken Hull KR from the 2nd tier to a few bottom half of the table finishes.
This season I have not included for either teams as it's not over yet.
Some would argue that Noble has taken us further.'"
Well given we didn't finish second for the last two years (we would have to have made the GF to do that and we didn't) and we didn't make the cup semi last year you need to get your facts right.
And if we have been a title challenging side than so has every team that made the play offs in the last two years. It isn't saying a great deal.
You are letting two wins in the play offs for 2007 and 2008 blind you to the poor performances in the league in those years and those poor performances are what left us with too much to do in the playoffs to actually make the GF itself.
Dave
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| Nobby's record (INCLUDING WITH WIGAN) speaks for itself.
So many on here will have to eat their words this season.
And yes I will be here to remind them of it.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: DaveO "Well given we didn't finish second for the last two years (we would have to have made the GF to do that and we didn't) and we didn't make the cup semi last year you need to get your facts right.
And if we have been a title challenging side than so has every team that made the play offs in the last two years. It isn't saying a great deal.
You are letting two wins in the play offs for 2007 and 2008 blind you to the poor performances in the league in those years and those poor performances are what left us with too much to do in the playoffs to actually make the GF itself.
Dave'"
Sorry 3rd, typing error dave.
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Nobby's record (INCLUDING WITH WIGAN) speaks for itself.
So many on here will have to eat their words this season.
And yes I will be here to remind them of it.'"
So you continue to say. I will not hold my breath. Hope you are right. Highly doubt it though sadly.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: DaveO "Well given we didn't finish second for the last two years (we would have to have made the GF to do that and we didn't) and we didn't make the cup semi last year you need to get your facts right.
And if we have been a title challenging side than so has every team that made the play offs in the last two years. It isn't saying a great deal.
You are letting two wins in the play offs for 2007 and 2008 blind you to the poor performances in the league in those years and those poor performances are what left us with too much to do in the playoffs to actually make the GF itself.
Dave'"
I am not blind to it, I am just playing devils advocate on this thread.
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