I don't know why i made your posts visible, and will mute them again. To say that Hock was welcomed back as a saviour, or a hero is complete garbage.

What does that make all the saints fans who said they would sign him over the last few weeks whilst this has all been going on?

Or is it just wiganners who are hypocrites?

Not sure I remember many treating him like a hero through his drugs ban? Just debate as to whether we should or shouldn't stand by him as a club and given the Newton situation that followed I would suggest still it was the right thing to do.
I don't remember too many treating him like a hero for gouging either? Mainly condemnation for his stupidity and certainly not widespread acclaim for him.
I certainly remember criticism of him for the LMS incident from many fans (not all) but certainly not again widespread hero worship as you are trying to Mae out.

I see you didn't hold it against Connolly,but yet some saints fans booed 10/15 years later so surely given what seems like your criteria for judging fans then that means ALL saints fans did?

If you want to identify certain individual posters who may have treated him like a hero and backed him no matter what (some even now hence 40plus pages) then fair enough but don't try and come on with a sweeping generalisation to fit all Wigan fans to try and make out we're all brain dead.
End of the day saints fans hero worshipped longy so what does that make ALL saints fans given his past and current woes?

As with Connolly he is rewriting history with his own agenda. Not with the facts.

I'd add my own tuppenceworth, but it seems St Pete has just been totally destroyed by numerous others. Not the first time in his experience, I'm sure.

Yep,

And for people to actually think the club is out of order is laughable.

You've been outed as a total phony.

You dismiss the ludicrous and OTT manner in which Gary Connolly was abused by the Saints fans because you personally, or so you say, didn't have a problem with him (and you've even got the facts of his departure wrong). At the same time, you criticise the Wigan fans for giving bad-apple Hock a hero's welcome, even though lots of them didn't, and even though your own crowd rarely had a bad word to say in public about an equal bad apple - Sean Long - to the point where they applauded their club for not getting rid of him.

Next time you come trolling, I'd think more carefully about your angle of attack.

Best forward in SL by a long way IMO.......big loss and Widnes have got a cracking player.

Really!

Its hard to argue with that indepth response

1/10 must try harder.

Don't generally agree with Saints fans but in all honesty hes pretty much on the money! 90% of our fans have been obsessed with Hock for a long time and the Hock love in with half of them have is a joke!

It was pathetic when he returned from his drugs ban and got a standing ovation - if thats not treating like a hero then what is - Still think til today thats a joke and anyone who did this was pathetic IMO!

Add to that all the wiganers who have raved 'best 2nd row in SL / Best in the world' Rubbish for years when he's nothing but!

Fact is for every bit of brilliance hock ever did, he cancelled it out with stupid errors, daft offloads and giving away penalties. If anything he's only ever been an average SR who, on his day, had the ability to perform at a high level. The demi-god treatement he's receievd from some of our fans for years is a joke and at least now some have woken up and smelt the coffee!

I'm completely comfortable with you believing that

Of course you are. You've no other option.