Impetulance ? You've made that word up yourself !

Gamesmanship ?

Examples please.

You've been listening to scouser Eddie Hemmings again haven't you ?

Petulant, you know, irritable, easily wound up. See pushing and shoving when he professionally fouled sinfield and then again at the end of the game. I'm sure I don't have to explain the term.milking the penalty. What, you think fans detest him because of his haircut!? These things make for an excellent competitor, but they are unnecessary imo. You don't see slater et al playing games like that

whiners i'll give you and it annoys us all but Wigan still hold the title for top cheap shot merchants.


...and cheating the salary cap of course, don't forget that.


newsflash! the season's far from over yet.

And Leeds fans say he doesn't get stuck out on the wing in defence... funny, seen it plenty just in the last few weeks... usually doing his impression of a revolving door.

His tackling technique involves jumping up with a swinging arm.

We OWN the RFL, and dont you forget it.

of course he deliberately knocked it out of danny cheats hands.......by hitting him on the arm.......blame danny boy for a loose carry, and praise sam for quick thinking.

You'd be better telling that to the 85% of your fans who didn't turn up on Friday night.

Yeah he's amazing. I wish we had him at Melbourne. He could clean Billys boots if he let him

He was just stating the facts to dismiss the bull you wrote earlier.

Now your a Melbourne fan? Make your mind up. Is there any more Leeds fans hiding over there with you?

They are nowhere to be seen over here.

Quote ="BillyRhino"Yes, we keep hearing this from other fans. Unfortunately his record at Redhall proves otherwise! So what conclusion can we arrive at then Ted, eh? Urban myth or simply gormless rival fans? And with the most penalised player last year being none other than the elder brother of the most detested cheat in SL, your very own version of the Addams Family is hardly a shining example, now is it? And that's before we mention any past salary cap errors and points deductions. Nope, I think best all round Ted, for anyone with any connection at Wigan to keep quiet, rather than bandy phrases about like utter disgrace. And in any case, you can't get eat a meat n tater pie, when yer foot's stuck in yer gob! '" Would that be this 'cheating' Tomkins, when compared with maguire? www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Same amount of penalties, but Sam has played 10 more games. Looks to me that little danny boy is more of a cheat than Sam.

Quote ="BillyRhino"Yes, we keep hearing this from other fans. Unfortunately his record at Redhall proves otherwise! So what conclusion can we arrive at then Ted, eh? Urban myth or simply gormless rival fans? And with the most penalised player last year being none other than the elder brother of the most detested cheat in SL, your very own version of the Addams Family is hardly a shining example, now is it? And that's before we mention any past salary cap errors and points deductions. Nope, I think best all round Ted, for anyone with any connection at Wigan to keep quiet, rather than bandy phrases about like utter disgrace. And in any case, you can't get eat a meat n tater pie, when yer foot's stuck in yer gob! '" Would that be this 'cheating' Tomkins, when compared with maguire? www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 Same amount of penalties, but Sam has played 10 more games. Looks to me that little danny boy is more of a cheat than Sam.

Oh so your comparing him to Billy Slater then? Id say thats a compliment to Sam wouldn't you?

Funny how the Leeds fans also seem to have missed the blatant charge on Pat in the air by Sinfield in the first half...

The simple fact is the officials were awful both sides of the ball and both teams got decisions go their way that probably shouldn't have done.

As for Sam milking a penalty or two I'm sure Lee Smith/Bailey et al have never once tried to milk a penalty have they?

Oh and don' talk BS about Slater and other aussies, they aren't averse to milking penalties when it suits them, all players are.

Slater? Nah Billy is the guy who fishes the cig butts out of the troughs after the game at AAMI park.

Wouldn't need boots for that then would he?

No BS in saying tomkins is a widely disliked player. Just made a suggestion as to why that might be, you know, for reasoned discussion on his temperament. Your mod who wrote the match review would appear to agree with me to some extent.

Bit off topic, but yes, I'm a storm member. From Leeds, living in Melbourne. Did you really laugh out loud when you thought of that remark?

He is yes, because he's class, he plays for Wigan, and your all absoulutely petrified of him, just like you all hated Shaun Edwards, Andy Gregory, Andy Farrell, Martin Offiah, Trent Barrett.....the list is endless, we are hated for being the most successful club in world rugby league and our best players are hated for playing for the biggest club in world rugby league and continuing to emulate our glorious past, its all fear based you see, and long may it continue.

As someone else pointed out, Edwards and Farrell were "widely disliked players". I'll leave it to your own superb intellect to draw the parallels.

As for reasoned discusiion; I've yet to see a post from a Leeds fan on here that was anything other than whinging, trolling or (usually) both. Your good posters seem to stay on your own board. If only that was the other way round maybe a 'reasoned discussion' would be a possibility. Until then we have to make do with the likes of you.

I'd say Wellington boots were absolutely essential when cleaning the urinal after 1500 Blokes had been drinking VB all day.

I'm joking of course. I think the idea that players are booed because they are good is a bit of a stretch. Monahagn isnt booed, Jamie Peacock isn't booed, Matt King isn't booed, and I can't recall Farrell being booed. I guess i'll just conclude with the point I made at the start. Tomkins is a great talent, who IMO doesn't need the silly niggle aspects of his game. Then perhaps opp fans might not boo him and wigan fans wouldn't get defensive about him

Farrell wasn't booed? Bloody hell...that's some short memory you have there!

Which proves my point entirely, none of the above play for Wigan.

As for Farrell not being boo'ed, are you joking????? He didnt just get boo'ed, he had personal chants directed at him and abuse, "Farrell where's your wife" does that ring a bell???

Boo Tomkins needs another name.

How about TSMISL
The Strongest Man In Super League

He must be, how can someone so frail manage to keep hold of the ball and clamp the arm of a 17 stone plus forward.

I think he has four weetabix for breakfast.

And what about the bell end who managed to get Farrells mobile number and called him to tell him that his sister had been badly hurt in a car crash. That was after the 2002 Challenge Cup Final btw.

One for IL at the next forum