I suggest you read cherry pies post. It will make you unhappy though because it will confirm you are wrong but so it goes.

No it will confirm you are both wrong.

His delivery for me was great tonight. Straight off the deck, at the line and accurate.

As I said in my original post he lacked the physicality, but his delivery fore was outstanding.

Tomkins very disappointing, still not a Super League player. Just too slow in attack, barely takes a line on, and in defence is found very lacking.

Williams was not perfect but it is not his preferred position. He was quicker, less telegraphed and stood up better in defence.

We'll I was watching a different game. Confirmed.

Well its three an counting...



His delivery was slow and too the head more often than not. Players had to stop an reach for the ball.



You[i really[/i don't know what you are talking about if you think that.

I will happily watch it again tomorrow and put my hand up if I am wrong.

Me too. I am working tomorrow (ireally should go to bed!) and so won't have the chance but if you do, watch the height at which most of his passes reach the player.

your not..he had a solid game.
Passing was good, got more confident as the game went on and started running then passing, a good hooker performance imo.
Tackling was spot on, text book most of the time, not physical but thats his build, he'll be better when he bulks up.
Still only young for a 9 and i am happy with him as long term replacement for MM

For his average standard he played very well, I like his attitude but he's not up to the Wigan grade just yet. maybe another 2 seasons

Agreed. Ideal player for Widnes in 2 yrs.

Watch the first try of the second half. Logan scoots, takes on the line and passes to Pettybourne who continues the play until Farrell finishes the move with the try. Quality work from Tomkins.

Some people , on here,don't like Logan because he isn't Sam. They expect him to have all the skills of his brother.

I think it was a mixture of both. Majority of his distribution was good but too many occasions smith was catching the ball behind his head. You can forgive the odd one but it happened too often for my liking.

The most frustrating thing for me is his speed of getting the ball out and decision making. There were a number of times where our line was set and he'd take a step then pass which gives their defence that extra split second or he'd go blind when it wasn't on. You need to listen to your halves.

Overall a decent but frustrating at times performance. 6/10

Tomkins is average at best and for me doesn't warrant a first team shirt, well not a Wigan shirt anyway

He needs to work hard on his defensive technique IMO. He goes too high for somebody who lacks size and he can't keep doing that.

Sam Powell is still in pole position to play as a back up hooker when he's back unless Tomkins can turn his form round.

Not impressed with him, he should really be showing his worth with MM out. I can't see him getting much game time once Powell returns