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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled. For 27 - 0 you get a trophy For 75 - 0 you get sod all. Wigan had eight in a row Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg



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I don't think so, a certain Mr. Robinson was in charge when Hughes was at Wigan. Come on BJ you're losing your touch. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: wigan pie man "not in the same league as Alex Murphy.

can anybody stand him?...he doesnt get booed for nothing.

never heard Best get booed
They did after he ed up somebody elses liver. Utter, utter .

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Aye the two worst coaches in Wigan history IMO, Ian Millward and Eric Hughes, and what did they have in common (actually I can think of a couple of things, allegedly of course
They were both St. Helens agents sent in to destroy Wigan? icon_biggrin.gif

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[quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]IMO, Sculthorpe at his peak was better than Hanley was at his.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="nickmanator":3hoggrzp]billy boston in todays game might pinch a spot bringin the cone on and that bein kind[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="robbierotten":3hoggrzp]Imo Sam Tomkins is a very poor mans Danny Brough he is just a average player getting bigged up by the idiots who comentate on sky.[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Deano G":3hoggrzp]Jonathan Davies, who is his equal in [Super League] today?[/quote:3hoggrzp] [quote="Badwanger":3hoggrzp]Wellens[/quote:3hoggrzp]:7007.jpg



Quote: Blobbynator "They were both St. Helens agents sent in to destroy Wigan?
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, they say. Just look at us now. Maybe it was the desperate low we reached during the Millward era that forced people to realise finally that we needed to start rebuilding the great Wigan club.

So actually "agent" Millward did us a favour. All that pain was worth it and in a strange way its thanks to Millward that we are now back where we belong! Maybe...

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When Maurice sold me to Leeds something changed, it just not the same, the passion inside me just wasn’t the same as running out at Central park for my hometown club. We need a change of culture here; we don’t want to be just happy with playing ok on Saturday at St Helens. Ill make sure that from now on things will change, that players will be under pressure and will train a lot harder than they have before. Shaun Wane 8/10/09 "WE HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT YOU CAN ONLY EVER DREAM OF" WIGAN RLFC The Mirror 30/10/09 How the Premier League table would look if teams were awarded points for famous fans... 20th: Wigan The Latics don't have any fans, yet alone any famous ones.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29281.jpg



Quote: Deano G "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, they say. Just look at us now. Maybe it was the desperate low we reached during the Millward era that forced people to realise finally that we needed to start rebuilding the great Wigan club.

So actually "agent" Millward did us a favour. All that pain was worth it and in a strange way its thanks to Millward that we are now back where we belong! Maybe...'"



And Millward is back were he belongs!!

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Quote: Deano G "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, they say. Just look at us now. Maybe it was the desperate low we reached during the Millward era that forced people to realise finally that we needed to start rebuilding the great Wigan club.

So actually "agent" Millward did us a favour. All that pain was worth it and in a strange way its thanks to Millward that we are now back where we belong! Maybe...'"


There might actually be something in that.

I don't know how long IL was waiting in the wings for, but I really got the feeling towards the end of their time in charge that Whelan and Lindsay were fed up and had no real idea how to continue.

Whelan had even, allegedly, made some comment a few months earlier to the effect that if we hadn't won something in a couple of years he'd be packing it in.

The 'relegation season' was just about the last straw for everyone else as well. I hadn't seen the controllers of Wigan RL get so much abuse in the newspaper letters pages for decades. Some people were even saying that we should be relegated because the whole club was in such a mess that it would give us the chance to have a massive clear-out and start again from scratch (a bit drastic, that, in my view, but that was how passions were running).

Yeah, I think you're right. The arrival of Millward was another classic exampe of a Lindsay quick-fix, and sure proof that we desperately needed new, more imaginative leadership. The acquisiton of Nobby seemed great at the time, and probably saved his bacon for a couple of extra years, but there were so many cracks by then that even the Nobster couldn't paste over them.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Aye the two worst coaches in Wigan history IMO, Ian Millward and Eric Hughes, and what did they have in common (actually I can think of a couple of things, allegedly of course
Don't forget Kel Coslett.Wasn't he the coach that took us into the 2nd division?

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[b:3bjm6pvr]Dave Whelan the saviour of the Pies[/b:3bjm6pvr] [u:3bjm6pvr][i:3bjm6pvr][b:3bjm6pvr]Fully marked up rentbook on display[/b:3bjm6pvr][/i:3bjm6pvr][/u:3bjm6pvr] [u:3bjm6pvr][b:3bjm6pvr]Who do you think you are candidates[/b:3bjm6pvr][/u:3bjm6pvr] [b:3bjm6pvr]Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!![/b:3bjm6pvr]:



Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't think so, a certain Mr. Robinson was in charge when Hughes was at Wigan. Come on BJ you're losing your touch. Just testing you eusa_whistle.gif But if they had been Indians instead of cowboys, they would have been blood brothers, allegedly!!

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Quote: P-J "They did after he loved up somebody elses liver. Utter, utter nice person.'"


yes mate...ill give you that one.

i detest him for doing that.........but he was a genius and a legend on and off the field in his playing days...pity he ended up in the gutter.

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Quote: wigan pie man "who says we wanted him back in 1999?

we have habit of shipping out guys who have "off field issues"........why bring one in?

seems we did the right thing.........betting scandal ring any bells??
walking out on his team mates in Oz?
umpteen other incidents that would be libelous if i posted them??

a leopard never changes his spots...........once a tool, always a tool'"


3 Lance Todd trophies and an overflowing trophy cabinet (much of which he won almost single handedly in big games) kind of counter-balances that doesn't it? I know which I would prefer.

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Quote: Benidorm John "Mr Gleeson springs to mind, not to mention Agent Millward.'"


iirc long got banned, gleeson got his wrist slapped.......whats millward got to do with it?
bad mouthed a woman fan or summat?........hardly the crime of the century

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Quote: SAINT ANDREW "when is hock back again??'"


if was anything to do with me.........NEVER

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Quote: Smurf "3 Lance Todd trophies and an overflowing trophy cabinet (much of which he won almost single handedly in big games) kind of counter-balances that doesn't it? I know which I would prefer.'"


thats your opinion, which i respect...........i have mine.

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Quote: wigan pie man "iirc long got banned, gleeson got his wrist slapped'"


Nope, Gleeson played (and actually scored a try) in the game that they had the bet on. Gleeson therefore got a far more severe punishment.

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Quote: Smurf "Nope, Gleeson played (and actually scored a try) in the game that they had the bet on. Gleeson therefore got a far more severe punishment.'"


Not "far more", as I recall - Long got 3 months, Gleeson 4.

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