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| Quote: Baked Bean Boogie "surely you cannot be thinking that Paul "as fast as a car with no engine" Wellens is better than Amos'"
To suggest that Roberts was the best fullback in the world is absolutely hilarious. He wasnt even the best full back in SL and certainly wouldnt havent got a gig at an NRL team as fullback
Jonh is comming out with some beauties recently!
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| Quote: Saint_Marc "To suggest that Roberts was the best fullback in the world is absolutely hilarious. He wasnt even the best full back in SL and certainly wouldnt havent got a gig at an NRL team as fullback
Jonh is comming out with some beauties recently!'"
Although it was for a very short period, he was by far the best fullback in super league at that time, probably the best player when he was on that form. Nowhere near the best in the world though, and he'd have to keep that form up for a couple of seasons to be considered the best overall player.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: Saint_Marc "To suggest that Roberts was the best fullback in the world is absolutely hilarious. He wasnt even the best full back in SL and certainly wouldnt havent got a gig at an NRL team as fullback
Jonh is comming out with some beauties recently!'"
Roberts was the best player in super league untill his injury, he would have walked MOS.
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Roberts was the best player in super league untill his injury, he would have walked MOS.'"
You don't win MoS in the first 2 months of the season I'm afraid. He might get back towards that form this year and win MOS. He might not and it be remembered as two excellent months amongst lots of average ones.
Just because you start the season well doesn't mean you'll "walk" MOS if you avoid injury - all players' form varies.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: FearTheVee "You don't win MoS in the first 2 months of the season I'm afraid. He might get back towards that form this year and win MOS. He might not and it be remembered as two excellent months amongst lots of average ones.
Just because you start the season well doesn't mean you'll "walk" MOS if you avoid injury - all players' form varies.'"
Without his injury I believe he could have kept that form with the way the team was playing.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "You don't win MoS in the first 2 months of the season I'm afraid. He might get back towards that form this year and win MOS. He might not and it be remembered as two excellent months amongst lots of average ones.
Just because you start the season well doesn't mean you'll "walk" MOS if you avoid injury - all players' form varies.'"
Yet funnily enough, some players win it who sit on the bench for half the season.
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| not sure...but didnt one of the best halves ever to come out of Wigan start his career at FB.....?................SEAN EDWARDS ?
did him no harm when he later switched to halves..maybe a spell there will help sam read the game better , and make him lethal when he goes back to 6 or 7
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| Quote: Cruncher "Yet funnily enough, some players win it who sit on the bench for half the season.'"
Still bitter about that eh?
Whilst Barrett spent the year choking against Saints, Roby was scoring at Wembley and playing in the Grand Final.
Trent in his "Man of Steel" year had extremely similar stats to Leon Pryce, who you lot have down as never a 6. Over the course of the season Trent scored 1 more try, had 1 more assist and made 2 more clean breaks than Leon. Leon won the Lance Todd and played in the Grand Final.
You were so used to watching bad players, the sight of a good one sent you all giddy - despite his disappearing act in numerous beating by Saints.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Still bitter about that eh?
Whilst Barrett spent the year choking against Saints, Roby was scoring at Wembley and playing in the Grand Final.
Trent in his "Man of Steel" year had extremely similar stats to Leon Pryce, who you lot have down as never a 6. Over the course of the season Trent scored 1 more try, had 1 more assist and made 2 more clean breaks than Leon. Leon won the Lance Todd and played in the Grand Final.
You were so used to watching bad players, the sight of a good one sent you all giddy - despite his disappearing act in numerous beating by Saints.'"
You don't know what you are talking about re Barrett. He was acknowledged as the best player in the league by the players in the players-player vote, which is the way the MoS is now determined. But if you want to put the opinion of a few journos many of whom have never played the game over the opinions of the players, feel free.
Barrett wasn't just the best player we had seen for a long time. He was the best player [iyou [/ihave seen in a long time as well whether you like to admit it or not. To put him Pryce in the in the same bracket is laughable.
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| Quote: wigan pie man "not sure...but didnt one of the best halves ever to come out of Wigan start his career at FB.....?................SEAN EDWARDS ?
did him no harm when he later switched to halves..maybe a spell there will help sam read the game better , and make him lethal when he goes back to 6 or 7'"
IIRC wasn't Edwards only at Full-back because that was the only position available for him to play at the time?
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| Quote: Katrina "IIRC wasn't Edwards only at Full-back because that was the only position available for him to play at the time?'"
i think it was more to do with the fact that Hampo kept breaking stuff. Edwards originally came in to the team on the wing although he was a halfback. Interestingly, Hampo came to Wigan as a scrum half too.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: DaveO "You don't know what you are talking about re Barrett. He was acknowledged as the best player in the league by the players in the players-player vote, which is the way the MoS is now determined. But if you want to put the opinion of a few journos many of whom have never played the game over the opinions of the players, feel free.
Barrett wasn't just the best player we had seen for a long time. He was the best player [iyou [/ihave seen in a long time as well whether you like to admit it or not. To put him Pryce in the in the same bracket is laughable.
Dave'"
Spot on. All the players knew Barrett was the best player around. He carried a rubbish team for 2 years.
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| Quote: DaveO "You don't know what you are talking about re Barrett. He was acknowledged as the best player in the league by the players in the players-player vote, which is the way the MoS is now determined. But if you want to put the opinion of a few journos many of whom have never played the game over the opinions of the players, feel free.
Barrett wasn't just the best player we had seen for a long time. He was the best player [iyou [/ihave seen in a long time as well whether you like to admit it or not. To put him Pryce in the in the same bracket is laughable.
Dave'"
Couldn't have put it better myself. No further addition from me needed.
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| Quote: DaveO "You don't know what you are talking about re Barrett. He was acknowledged as the best player in the league by the players in the players-player vote, which is the way the MoS is now determined. But if you want to put the opinion of a few journos many of whom have never played the game over the opinions of the players, feel free.
Barrett wasn't just the best player we had seen for a long time. He was the best player [iyou [/ihave seen in a long time as well whether you like to admit it or not. To put him Pryce in the in the same bracket is laughable.
Dave'"
Spot on
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