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https://www.superleague.co.uk/superleagueplus
I found some of the wording from Rhodri Jones interesting. He seemed to be avoiding stating that all games are available on demand, only mentioning an on demand feature when specifically speaking about the live Sky games that are added later (48hrs from the journo's tweets a couple of days ago).
So i had a nosey on the website, and unless it is very badly worded it seems that you can only stream games on demand from the current season if you pay from an annual pass. if you choose to pay monthly (as i would expect most to) it appears you would only be able to watch games live, thus making it impossible to consume all the content and making the price point even worse.
Bit of a baffling decision if you ask me, i would have thought Super League would want most people paying monthly as they would earn more money that way. Even if a monthly subscriber pays for just the months in season, they would be handing over £180 as opposed to £130 (£100 for season ticket holders). Surely keeping these people happy should be important, not gatekeeping content from them.
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https://www.superleague.co.uk/superleagueplus
I found some of the wording from Rhodri Jones interesting. He seemed to be avoiding stating that all games are available on demand, only mentioning an on demand feature when specifically speaking about the live Sky games that are added later (48hrs from the journo's tweets a couple of days ago).
So i had a nosey on the website, and unless it is very badly worded it seems that you can only stream games on demand from the current season if you pay from an annual pass. if you choose to pay monthly (as i would expect most to) it appears you would only be able to watch games live, thus making it impossible to consume all the content and making the price point even worse.
Bit of a baffling decision if you ask me, i would have thought Super League would want most people paying monthly as they would earn more money that way. Even if a monthly subscriber pays for just the months in season, they would be handing over £180 as opposed to £130 (£100 for season ticket holders). Surely keeping these people happy should be important, not gatekeeping content from them.
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| All the games are on Wigan t.v. anyway usually within 48 hours of the game finishing. I wonder if that will continue?
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7914_1630875396.png I'm 49, I've had a brain haemorrhage and a triple bypass and I could still go out and play a reasonable game of rugby union. But I wouldn't last 30 seconds in rugby league.
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| taken from rlhttps://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12196/13053911/sam-tomkins-former-england-captain-joins-sky-sports-for-2024-super-league-seasonrl
Quote: " Sky Sports and NOW is the only place to watch every game live all season. All six matches in each Super League round will be shown live, totalling around 170 games each year across Sky and NOW platforms. This will include Magic Weekend fixtures, Playoffs and all three Grand Finals - Men's, Women's and Wheelchair.
Continued innovation will also be seen on screen, as renewed investment means that video referees will now feature in all Super League matches, bringing increased consistency and integrity to the sport.
In addition to live matches, Super League fans can tune in to Sky Sports for a range of support programming, including interviews and features whilst being able to stay across all the latest rugby league news on Sky Sports' social media channels, skysports.com, the Sky Sports App and Sky Sports News. For non-Sky subscribers, fans can still stream every Betfred Super League live match with a NOW Sports Month membership.'"
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| So if they are are all live on Sky hopefully my ****** will pick them up
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| The service is great for people whose needs it suits. If you want to watch other sports as well then keep your Sky subscription. If you have no interest in other sides, then you can buy a one off pass for your teams games. If you’re a casual tv viewer and don’t want to watch football, cricket etc then it’s happy days. It’s £129 for 9 months of live rugby league if you do want to subscribe and £99 if you’re a season ticket holder (but enjoy watching other teams games as well).
It doesn’t make it a bad service just because it isn’t perfect for every single persons needs. In terms of my own, it’ll only really come of any use for the odd one off Wigan game I can’t make and as and when I need it I’ll be happy it’s there to use.
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| Finally sitting down and giving it a bash on my smart tv through the internet browser, this is the same way that i always used Watch NRL also with no issues.
Immediately i noticed on the first highlight video i tried watching (Wigan vs Hull KR rd 1) that the video was quite choppy and was genuinely starting to mess with my eyes even in the short highlights package. So i went on and tried a couple of others (Hull FC vs Cas / Saints vs Huds) and noticed these did not have the same issues, everything is running smooth.
I then notice that these 2 games where not on tv, so were using a lower quality static camera to film the games. I then put on another game that i knew was on tv Wire vs Leeds) and again it was choppy and hard to watch.
I am now wondering if the website is struggling to playback the higher quality footage of the tv games compared to the lower quality single angle games?
I understand this is literally day 1 and hopefully it is something that will be fixed by round 1, because if this is how it plays them games it would be unwatchable.
I also don't want to come across like i am just bagging this for the sake of it, i actually think this is a very positive step forward for the sport and something that should have happened sooner. I just feel it is important to also point out it's current flaws and any decisions you may feel are incorrect / seem counter productive.
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| Not sure there is enough distinctive value in the new streaming service. I assumed when this was first reported that Sky would screen two fixtures leaving four games to be exclusively streamed. This would mean Sky subscribers (such as myself) would consider signing up to streaming as well and then you potentially have something that can bring in substantial revenue. As it is Sky showing everything means it will only appeal to a very limited audience i.e. RL followers who don't have Sky and maybe a small group of international subscribers.
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| Quote: MadDogg "Not sure there is enough distinctive value in the new streaming service. I assumed when this was first reported that Sky would screen two fixtures leaving four games to be exclusively streamed. This would mean Sky subscribers (such as myself) would consider signing up to streaming as well and then you potentially have something that can bring in substantial revenue. As it is Sky showing everything means it will only appeal to a very limited audience i.e. RL followers who don't have Sky and maybe a small group of international subscribers.'"
You’d imagine there are plenty of RL fans or RL watchers who don’t have Sky given the cost of it. When a game is on BBC/C4 it can have an audience multiple times higher than Sky games, so there are people watching games on there who aren’t watching them on Sky. Now a great number of them might just have happened to flick it on and won’t pay for this service but some will.
The match passes could be the big money spinner for the game IMO. When Wigan go to Hull for example and it’s not on Sky, we might take 500/600 fans with us but that leaves thousands of regular fans who might want to watch it and plenty of casual viewers as well. That soon mounts up, especially when the same scenario is played out across the league each weekend. I’d be more than happy to pay £6.99 to watch it if I wasn’t going. It won’t suit everyone but it will be ideal for enough people to make it work really well.
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| I'm similar to what sergeantpepper said on here. I have a ST so that's all the home games covered and I usually go to at least the Lancashire aways. We are also on Sky quite a bit so there are even more games there for me to watch and to be honest I wouldn't really be interested in say a Hudds v Salford game for example.
The bigger games not involving Saints (Wigan v Warrington/Catalan etc) will probably be on Sky anyway so as they say on Dragons Den "I'm out"
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| Quote: NickyKiss "You’d imagine there are plenty of RL fans or RL watchers who don’t have Sky given the cost of it. When a game is on BBC/C4 it can have an audience multiple times higher than Sky games, so there are people watching games on there who aren’t watching them on Sky. Now a great number of them might just have happened to flick it on and won’t pay for this service but some will.
The match passes could be the big money spinner for the game IMO. When Wigan go to Hull for example and it’s not on Sky, we might take 500/600 fans with us but that leaves thousands of regular fans who might want to watch it and plenty of casual viewers as well. That soon mounts up, especially when the same scenario is played out across the league each weekend. I’d be more than happy to pay £6.99 to watch it if I wasn’t going. It won’t suit everyone but it will be ideal for enough people to make it work really well.'"
Maybe I underestimate the number of people who follow RL but don't have Sky. But I've never known an RL fan who doesn't have it nor have I known anyone who has Sky Sports purely for the rugby league. For me its a shame that both platforms don't have their own exclusive content - that for me would have a far greater chance of success.
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| Quote: MadDogg "Maybe I underestimate the number of people who follow RL but don't have Sky. But I've never known an RL fan who doesn't have it nor have I known anyone who has Sky Sports purely for the rugby league. For me its a shame that both platforms don't have their own exclusive content - that for me would have a far greater chance of success.'"
I know a good few, especially the older generation who might be on more of a budget. My old man would never pay for Sky because he has absolutely no interest in any other sports but he’d go for this. Same with a couple of mates and their parents. There’s a huge difference between £129 a year and the cost of having Sky sports, which as part of a package might cost £1,000 or so.
It won’t be for everyone but it looks a positive step to me.
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| What I found, watching the NRL was, although in theory I could log in to watchNRL on the internet bit of my smart TV, in practice, it kept falling over, and was generally unsatisfactory. I went with the low-tech, if clumsy, solution of playing it on my laptop, with a HDMI cable connecting it to the TV, so the TV is just 'mirroring'. I found this much more satisfactory. I put it down to pea-sized 'brains' in a smart TV compared to a laptop.
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| Quote: moto748 "What I found, watching the NRL was, although in theory I could log in to watchNRL on the internet bit of my smart TV, in practice, it kept falling over, and was generally unsatisfactory. I went with the low-tech, if clumsy, solution of playing it on my laptop, with a HDMI cable connecting it to the TV, so the TV is just 'mirroring'. I found this much more satisfactory. I put it down to pea-sized 'brains' in a smart TV compared to a laptop.'"
I watch WatchNRL on my TV by Airplay via my phone. Never have any issues, no wires or cables needed.
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| Sure, Stu. But if you watch 'via your phone', surely you are mirroring?
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