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Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "All coaches of all sports whinge and moan about many things. The main reason for it is an attempt to influence referees in future games. If a ref has a seed planted for example that Tomkins was being unfairly targeted, subconsciously the ref is more likely to be looking for it and therefore give the 50-50 decisions in his teams favour.

Secondly it influences fans as can be clearly seen from the Walsh 'incident' in the friendly. Didn't take a lot to whip up those incapable of formulating their own opinion into a frenzy over something which didn't even happen.'"


What didn't happen?

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Bugger all this talk about Walsh now, he is fine there is no issue.

After his performance I think it is far more appropriate to talk about Matty Smith, top class performance, he seemed to be at the heart of everything that we did.

I think this could be the season he looks to make the 7 jersey his for England.

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Quote: jonh "I think this could be the season he looks to make the 7 jersey his for England.'"



It should have been his for the WC but thats an arguement for another day

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Quote: jonh "I think this could be the season he looks to make the 7 jersey his for England.'"


Can't argue with that, developing into a fine player - and one with a mindset suited to international RL too I reckon.

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Disciplinary verdict on the Ben Flower tackle, "No charge. Tackle is marginally late. Player has arms down and makes a legitimate attempt to tackle".
Maybe Nathan Brown should wait before spouting his allegations - or maybe he's trying to send a message for referees in the future.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "What didn't happen?'"


The horribly late shoulder charge or vicious attack to the head dependent upon which comment you choose to read.


Disciplinary verdict on the Ben Flower tackle, "No charge. Tackle is marginally late. Player has arms down and makes a legitimate attempt to tackle".

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Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "The horribly late shoulder charge or vicious attack to the head dependent upon which comment you choose to read.


Disciplinary verdict on the Ben Flower tackle, "No charge. Tackle is marginally late. Player has arms down and makes a legitimate attempt to tackle".'"


So it was a late tackle then? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "So it was a late tackle then?
No, it was Marginal.

I wish people would have the intelligence and common sense to formulate a reasoned opinion. Coaches play mind games all the time, it amazes me how many people fall for it. It's not a criticism aimed at Brown (although he's worse than most) or St Helens' fans just a general observation.

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Quote: Eastbourne Warrior "No, it was Marginal.

I wish people would have the intelligence and common sense to formulate a reasoned opinion. Coaches play mind games all the time, it amazes me how many people fall for it. It's not a criticism aimed at Brown (although he's worse than most) or St Helens' fans just a general observation.'"


Lighten up mate!

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "So it was a late tackle then?
You'll see plenty of late tackles week in and week out. Was it meant to injure Walsh ? I don't think so. Brown needs to remember that this is RL not a knitting circle. When Saints commit such an action I hope he is as quick to come out and condemn his player!

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Quote: Sweaty Betty's "You'll see plenty of late tackles week in and week out. Was it meant to injure Walsh ? I don't think so. Brown needs to remember that this is RL not a knitting circle. When Saints commit such an action I hope he is as quick to come out and condemn his player!'"


I doubt it. When Meli committed one of the worst tackles you could imagine on Craig Hall he said “It was just a reflex action and that can happen when you’re out wide as an outside back defender when there’s big spaces.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=INzmrDRAtSU
Quote: Sweaty Betty's "You'll see plenty of late tackles week in and week out. Was it meant to injure Walsh ? I don't think so. Brown needs to remember that this is RL not a knitting circle. When Saints commit such an action I hope he is as quick to come out and condemn his player!'"


I doubt it. When Meli committed one of the worst tackles you could imagine on Craig Hall he said “It was just a reflex action and that can happen when you’re out wide as an outside back defender when there’s big spaces.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=INzmrDRAtSU


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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I doubt it. When Meli committed one of the worst tackles you could imagine on Craig Hall he said “It was just a reflex action and that can happen when you’re out wide as an outside back defender when there’s big spaces.


Haha. Anyone who understands the sport will know that the Meli incident was a pure instinctive reaction. He just through an arm out. It wasn't malicious or intentional and I'm certain that you know that already! icon_smile.gif

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Haha. Anyone who understands the sport will know that the Meli incident was a pure instinctive reaction. He just through an arm out. It wasn't malicious or intentional and I'm certain that you know that already!
Serious question, which was more dangerous? Meli nearly decapitating Hall or Flower running into Walsh late?

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Haha. Anyone who understands the sport will know that the Meli incident was a pure instinctive reaction. He just through an arm out. It wasn't malicious or intentional and I'm certain that you know that already!
Had Hall stepped Meli maybe I would agree but he didn't. It was an old fashioned "clothes line" tackle. Meli knew what he was doing and got what he deserved.

This was the RFL view.
Rule: 15.1(b) Detail: High Tackle – Intentional – stiff arm tackle – no attempt to tackle legitimately – violent Grade E

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Quote: bazdev "Serious question, which was more dangerous? Meli nearly decapitating Hall or Flower running into Walsh late?'"


I can't take you seriously when you're suggesting decapitation.

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