I think they all know it but it's a trade off. On a long downfield kick the forwards will often set off well ahead of the kick knowing that they'll have to give 10 (which is better than getting there when they would have done if they set off in line with the kicker). That leaves the kicker no opportunity to run them onside. Plus teams generally like to get kick pressure on, meaning the kicker goes to ground and can't run anyone onside, and even risks getting caught in possession if he doesn't stand deep enough.

I find the refs often shout give 10 and it literally looks like 5meters given. (In situations where kicker hasn’t become furthest on the chase)

Yeah it should be 10 but I'd agree with that. Don't forget it's 10 in any direction though, so if a player is running sideways or diagonally he won't get 10 metres forward.

Just watching CC cas kick 3 players offside Roby knocked on, ball to cas either the touch judge or ref not looking at players

I’ve no idea what set of rules we are playing to each game I watch any more.

The rules on offside are the same everywhere.

A step in the right direction from the props/loose forwards on Friday looking at the stats. A really good shift from both Havard and Partington and better numbers from Singleton and Clubb (although his increase in carries was offset against a drop in tackles made to a whopping 8 )

Havard
Carries-14
Metres-124
Tackles-37

Partington
Carries-11
Metres-97
Tackles-51

Singleton
Carries-9
Metres-70
Tackles-31

Clark-
Carries-7
Metres-50
Tackles-13

Clubb
Carries-6
Metres-52
Tackles-8

Shorrocks
Carries-5
Metres-41
Tackles-20

There’s work to do but it’s better than it has been.

Miles better.

Let's see if we can do it consistently starting against Wakey.

His selection will be interesting in a week or two with Isa, Powell, Bullock and Byrne due back this week and Bateman, Smithies and Field not far behind. He should have enough depth to really push the forwards on and make them earn a spot. If he just does his usual of always picking Clubb and the kids and runs the kids in to the ground to make sure Clubb doesn’t have to do more than 15 minutes, then he’s not learnt a thing over this bad spell.

Be gutted for Clark if he gets dropped, the more minutes he gets the better he looks but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him sat down again by Lam

Partington was superb I thought. Not prop related but Farrell and KPP over 100m too, great games.

Competition for places in the front row is the dream but I’m sure we’ll pick up more injuries and bans.

I think most will want KPP in the 17, so that leaves Bateman or Isa possibly going to loose forward and Partington would be one of the 4 props, as would Ethan Havard. If that’s the case you may be looking at 2 props from 5 of Clubb, Singleton, Byrne, Bullock and Clark. I’d like to think it’ll be picked on merit but I’d be surprised if it isn’t picked in that order I noted, regardless of how they all do.