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Quote: jdrocket "There are loads of players who are a lot better than Tomkins that I have had the pleasure of seeing and I can't think of them getting booed.
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Name them.

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Quote: jdrocket "It is fair to say he is talented but he is also, to put it as eloquently as possible, a niggly, scrawny cheat.
He must be really good at that then too as he always gets away with it.

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Quote: MattyB "Name them.'"


Had a feeling somebody would put that icon_lol.gif

Hes probly looking up names as fast as he can right now icon_lol.gif

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Quote: jdrocket "I've not booed him and I can see he isa great player.

But maybe he is being booed because he is such a niggly character. It is true he cheats a lot and in the game of rugby league (a man's sport [and lot us not forget the gentleman beginnings of the sport in the late nineteenth century])

Maybe he annoys the crowd not for us ability to score (or not alone) maybe they would prefer to be outclassed.

There are loads of players who are a lot better than Tomkins that I have had the pleasure of seeing and I can't think of them getting booed.

It is fair to say he is talented but he is also, to put it as eloquently as possible, a niggly, scrawny cheat.
So come on then, if that's the case then why was Briers never booed Playing for Gt Britain?

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Quote: jdrocket "It is true he cheats a lot and in the game of rugby league'"


Could you mention some specific examples of this?

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Quote: Cherry.Pie "Could you mention some specific examples of this?'"



Joey Johns and
Jamie Lyon

for a start


They are the two clear examples and I personally hold that other people I have seen play have been better than what I have seen of Sam.

I don't want to get into a dick measuring match. I was merely offering an alternative perspective than the one that had been mentioned.

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Quote: Jukesays "So come on then, if that's the case then why was Briers never booed Playing for Gt Britain?'"




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Quote: Jukesays "So come on then, if that's the case then why was Briers never booed Playing for Gt Britain?'"



Tommy Martyn was never booed for GB either.

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Quote: jdrocket "Joey Johns and
Jamie Lyon

for a start


They are the two clear examples and I personally hold that other people I have seen play have been better than what I have seen of Sam.

I don't want to get into a dick measuring match. I was merely offering an alternative perspective than the one that had been mentioned.'"



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Quote: Jukesays "icon_stupid.gif or
I don't follow?

are you saying that Sam is better than arguably the greatest player to ever play the game?

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Quote: jdrocket "I don't follow?

are you saying that Sam is better than arguably the greatest player to ever play the game?'"


Not in his performances at Warrington though.

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Quote: jdrocket "I don't follow?

are you saying that Sam is better than arguably the greatest player to ever play the game?'"


No

He said
Quote: jdrocket "
Quote: jdrocket "It is true he cheats a lot and in the game of rugby league'"


Could you mention some specific examples of this?'"


And you replied with
Quote: jdrocket "
Quote: jdrocket "Could you mention some specific examples of this?'"



Joey Johns and
Jamie Lyon

for a start


They are the two clear examples and I personally hold that other people I have seen play have been better than what I have seen of Sam.

I don't want to get into a dick measuring match. I was merely offering an alternative perspective than the one that had been mentioned.'"


So 2 examples of him cheating are Joey johns and Jamie Lyon?

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Quote: Jukesays "No

He said And you replied with
So 2 examples of him cheating are Joey johns and Jamie Lyon?'"



oh I apologise. I was on my own board. I meant to quote Matty B;

Quote: Jukesays "
Quote: Jukesays "There are loads of players who are a lot better than Tomkins that I have had the pleasure of seeing and I can't think of them getting booed.
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Name them.'"



But I'm sure you knew that. It was my mistake. Although Matty B, it is a little silly to think Sam is the best player to play super league (about how long I have been watching)

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Quote: MattyB "Not in his performances at Warrington though.'"


That is a good point. However, we are going off quality. As some (most on this board/) people believe that the boos are cause of his talent.

Well I have seen the most talented person to ever play (according to many) and I don't remember boos (I could be mistaken)

On another note, I also believe that someone like Keiran Cunnigham was more talented that Sam is now. He was strong leader, devastating and rarely made mistakes. Also, I think it was only Wire and Wigan fans that ever got into him and that was because of the dislike those fans have for saints players.

Sam is a great find and could be one of the best the british have ever produced but he is no where near there now.

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Quote: jdrocket "oh I apologise. I was on my own board. I meant to quote Matty B;

But I'm sure you knew that. It was my mistake. Although Matty B, it is a little silly to think Sam is the best player to play super league (about how long I have been watching)'"



Not saying that, its the fact you said 'loads' which I doubted.

I have been watching Wigan for thirty years and in my opinion, Sam is the most exciting Wigan youngster since Shaun Edwards, in fact I'd say Sam is arguably slightly ahead than Shaun was at 22.

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