Wasnt there a tread a few weeks ago that showed we have some of the top stats in most categories but sadly also in Errors and Missed Tackles? Anyone think that against Saints we showed that those stats are true but at the same time managed to get rid of the negative ones?

The title of this thread "Noble, I don't want to leave" is telling.
I can't see Noble saying this to a journo if he felt there was any chance of him going.
Noble was appointed by Mo and DW, his salary will reflect that, I would imagine. There won't be many of us would expect Ian Lenagan to match the salary Noble is currently on for his next deal.
It may well be that Noble and Lenagan are trying to thrash out a deal with differences between them both in term of money and years.
As far as the team goes, Noble seems now to know his preferred squad.
Phelps is his fourth full back this year with Mathers starting there and then Roberts and Richards. Gleeson is a massive signing for us and has cleared the right centre problem, Goulding and Bailey didn't get anything out of the 3 shirt in the last 3 years. Gleeson will!
Smith is now hitting form and looks real class, TL starting 7 then to 9 is a winner.
Back up in the backs with Ainscough must be the very best of problems for the coach.
He now needs to sort out the forwards. We still need two props or one plus a prop/2nd row.
Overall and bearing in mind the mess we were in when he arrivedNoble has done en excellent job here, I for one would be very pleased if he stayed.
Wigan are not Noble's Bradford, we are not boring and have long gone from five drives and a kick. Unlike Bradford, we have more than a plan A.

I believe the might be some truth in when some people say Noble cant build a squad of his own, or atleast that might have had some truth at one point.

I think having to start from scratch with Wigan and build from the bottom up could have actually added a new dimension to his coaching. Starting from the roots could have shown him new ways of playing where attack is more flowing and creative than his tried and tested forward driving that he had at bradford. This could also have some relation to the Win/Loss ratios he has experienced with us as he comes to terms with the good and bad of new tactics and learns from experience, some things havent worked but others (like seen Saturday) have paid off greatly.

I feel this idea might have some weight behind it with his comments that his best coaching has been during his time at Wigan, while not the best in terms of results, it has possibly been a new stage in his coaching career and another step up the ladder that he didnt have to make with a pre made Bradford team and a selected GB team.

Bradford under Noble were not boring. They were awesome.


There's a difference.

Even though I have continually backed Noble I think it's only right to not get too carried away with Saturday's result. It's been hard for me to defend Noble this year because there is no escaping the fact that the start to this season has been unacceptable and we are already playing catch-up.

I still feel Saints and Leeds playing to their full capabilities are still better than us so I'm still not hopeful of a trophy this year. I still believe Noble is the man to take us forward even though I sometimes disagree with his selections, but unless I'm the coach myself I guess whoever is the coach I'm going to disagree with some of the things they do. For me has laid the foundations in place so I think it only fair he gets the chance to see his hard work come to fruition.

On a personal note, from speaking to him in Oz I have never seen a man so determined to make Wigan great again. Personally I want someone with that passion and determination leading us. Unfortunately I fear too many think this can happen overnight (or in three years) and that is why he won't get his contract renewal and we'll more than likely go back to square one on the manager merry-go-round.

Patience is a virtue which I think we seem to lack as fans.

i have always said we need to give him till the end of 2010 lets see what happens at the end of this season with recruitment and judge him on next years results .but i wouldn't right us off winning something this year just yet

This is what always comes across from Noble, he really wants to coach this club. That cant be understated in terms of doing the job.



If IL believes Noble is the right man, people need to get behind him, there will be no point bitching about it. I would hope he is the man, but we need to continue with this form consistenly for the rest of the year, to stand a chance of winning something.

Finally some balanced comment rather than 'noble out one week, and noble stay the following.

I hope it doesn't happen but it would be interesting to see everyone back here slating noble and calling for his head next week if we did go out the cup its pathetic

I for one have never called for Nobles head i would like to think i have looked at the bigger picture.
He has brought us a long way in 3 years and can still Finnish the job and take us to winning GF and CC finals it is not and never has been a quick overnight job it was always going to take 3 to 4 years to turn the club around after so many failed quick fixes.
Trouble is we had it to good for to long and no one could see the long term damage that was being done to the club.
Also lots of fans think its wave a magic wand and it will be right well in the real world that will never work its hard work and commitment that will get us to the top again and we should all let Noble see the job through.

Although at the game i was far too worse for wear to give a judgement call, but clearly he got something right and credit to him, he deserves all the praise he has recieved and the backing of the board.

If he can generate performances like that or near to that level i will be happy for him to stay at Wigan, but again lets not get carried away it is one good performance off the back or 2 results but poor to average performances.

Its a fantastic thing to turn Saints over in such style and i look forward to watching the game without the benefit of a 2 day drinking session.

Noble must get the credit for this performance just as he must take the fall for the other performances lets hope this finally is the start of something good and not another false dawn. We have seen what the team is capable of now and what most of us on here knew the level we could acheive. Its up to Noble now to continue this which I dearly hope he can.

It is definitely down to Noble now to kick on - and a better opportunity couldn't be asked for in an away cup tie that, while it will doubtless be quite testing, is not impossible for a team at the top of its game.

If we genuinely have turned a corner, and what we saw on Saturday is truly a sign of things to come, then we will beat Wakey and proceed to the quarters. But if it was another of these frustrating one-offs, and normality is due to be restored, then Wakey may put us away convincingly.

If Noble and his boys can break this cycle and take us on a winning run - and there's no physical reason why they can't, because they did Saints good and proper (in the words of IL, in "every aspect of the game"icon_wink.gif - then it'll be much, much harder for the club to go looking for a new head-coach.

Brian's future at Wigan is very much in his own hands.

The win over Stains was fantastic and there are signs that players like Smith, Phelps and Coley are playing to a much higher standard than at the start of the season, things definitely look on the up. Hopefully now people will also be off Lockers back for a while.

However, the euphoria seems a bit misplaced. The team has been capable of performing in one-off matches for the last couple of years but simply hasn't been able to deliver consistently.

We are still a long way adrift of the top 3 after an absolutely shocking start to the season. IF - and to me its a big IF - we can put a decent winning run together over the next month or so then maybe BN and the team will deserve all plaudits being heaped on them at the moment by some Wigan fans.

At the moment for me they have won back some respect, but they still have a long way to go before I'll be joining in the celebrations. I just hope that before long I'm feeling as positive about this team as many of the people on this thread!

Of course it shouldnt....im struggling to see your point as it appears that you to are of the correct option IMO that nobby should go regardless of beating st helens.....the point i was making originally is far too many on here are too fickle....they wanted noble out the other week, now more than half appear to want him to stop, and that will again change as soon as we suffer another bad defeat which im sure we will at another point this season as nobby is not up to scratch imo.