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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Hock wanted out due to the unstated reasons, which I too would have wanted to leave over. Hock never wanted to go to Aus or play for any other club, ]he simply felt he wasn't getting the deserved money, and via his agent (basically his agent) were using the interest from Aus as leverage to gain more money.
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These statements seem to contradict each other.

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Quote: Cruncher "

The issues which forced Hock to want to leave came after him wanting more money to stay.

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It seems we are finding out the influence of GH's agent.
He tries to get Gaz more money, due to Hock believeing he is worth it, then ends up with having his client leaving the top of the table club to play for the team that finished bottom of the League.
I do hope that's not true and I've read something wrongly into this. If the above is anything like true then I genuinely feel sorry for Gaz.

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Quote: Father Ted "It seems we are finding out the influence of GH's agent.
He tries to get Gaz more money, due to Hock believeing he is worth it, then ends up with having his client leaving the top of the table club to play for the team that finished bottom of the League.
I do hope that's not true and I've read something wrongly into this. If the above is anything like true then I genuinely feel sorry for Gaz.'"


He did want more money. Then a major issue with Wane hit which caused him to just want out, regardless of money or anything.

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The issues which forced Hock to want to leave came after him wanting more money to stay.'"
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Post Hock ergo propter Hock?

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "

So why didn't he take the latter Aus options that Wigan provided for him?

Seems odd that he's accepted a deal at Widnes.

Has the problem that 'forced him to leave' now receded, or was it not such a problem that he wouldn't be okay just down the road?

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Additionally, you seem to not get the msg that I wouldn't be voicing anymore indepth knowledge on the subject.'"


I'm not asking for more in depth knowledge but would be grateful if you'd re-hash that which you've already posted.

Save me tracking back through a lengthy thread. Cheers.

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Quote: Clearwing "I'm not asking for more in depth knowledge but would be grateful if you'd re-hash that which you've already posted.

Save me tracking back through a lengthy thread. Cheers.'"


Hock wanted out of Wigan due to an issue with Wane. Hock looks like a total idiot who's disrespected the club, Hock's reasons for living are justified, personally I would have wanted out myself if I was in the same situation.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Hock wanted out of Wigan due to an issue with Wane. Hock looks like a total idiot who's disrespected the club, Hock's reasons for living are justified, personally I would have wanted out myself if I was in the same situation.'"


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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Hock wanted out of Wigan due to an issue with Wane. Hock looks like a total idiot who's disrespected the club, Hock's reasons for living are justified, personally I would have wanted out myself if I was in the same situation.'"


The problem is, on one hand, you're claiming that Hock left because an issue arose so bad that you too would have wanted to leave. But on the other, you're claiming that Hock left because of an issue with Wane.

Are these issues one and the same?

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Quote: Cruncher "The problem is, on one hand, you're claiming that Hock left because an issue arose so bad that you too would have wanted to leave. But on the other, you're claiming that Hock left because of an issue with Wane.

Are these issues one and the same?'"


Bingo

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Bingo'"


Aha. So it does just boil down to a fall-out with the coach.

Following on suspiciously quickly from a demand - that some would regard as unreasonable - for a pay-rise.

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Quote: Cruncher "Aha. So it does just boil down to a fall-out with the coach.

Following on suspiciously quickly from a demand - that some would regard as unreasonable - for a pay-rise.'"


The payrise and the issue are two separate matters.

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You are all crazy and daft as brushes, I am one of the people involved, I know what's gone on and if you don't believe me well that's just plain naive.

I'm not going to say on here who I am but I was certainly there and involved so beleive what I tell you as it comes first hand and I'm a trust worthy person.


Now you can trust in the truth from me or spin from the Wigan Club.





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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "The payrise and the issue are two separate matters.'"


Perhaps not in the eyes of those being required to give the pay-rise.

But assuming you're right ... it all boils down to a fall-out with the coach.

As a result of which, Gareth is now at Widnes. Great agent he's got himself.

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