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| Quote: 100% Warrior "He’s not been in form but I’d be tempted to offer a deal to Liam Watts.'"
An out of form Watts is still better than all of our current props put together.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "An out of form Watts is still better than all of our current props put together.'"
I'm not sure on the signing tbh.
Undoubtedly he's been a good player, but he's massively out of form, will be 31 in a week or two and I just don't think that, the way the club is, we would get the best out of him. It seems like loads of risk and we could potentially end up with yet another dead wood prop - see Singleton, Clark, Clubb, Burgess, Pettybourne, FNP,
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "I'm not sure on the signing tbh.
Undoubtedly he's been a good player, but he's massively out of form, will be 31 in a week or two and I just don't think that, the way the club is, we would get the best out of him. It seems like loads of risk and we could potentially end up with yet another dead wood prop - see Singleton, Clark, Clubb, Burgess, Pettybourne, FNP,'"
I do see your point and to be honest I have no come back to it other than the good old ifs and buts system. But [iif [/iwe could pick him up on a decent deal for us he’d be worth a punt. Other than Havard I’d still rate him above any of our props
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| I'm wouldn't be keen on us having to deal with all Watts' penalties when we already struggle to make hard yards.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "I do see your point and to be honest I have no come back to it other than the good old ifs and buts system. But [iif [/iwe could pick him up on a decent deal for us he’d be worth a punt. Other than Havard I’d still rate him above any of our props'"
Yeah, it was kinda the same with Burgess last year. We could all see he was done, but [iwhat if[/i we could have got him back to fitness.
Can't help but think we massively missed out when we didn't get Mullhearn. He's not set the world alight, but he's better than what we have. You stick him next to Havard and another similar signing and all of a sudden the prop position isn't a massive issue. It wouldn't be as strong as others, but it's solid enough to let our other strengths (HB, 2nd row) be effective.
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| It doesn’t look like we’ve been in for Hill and even if we had been, it sounds like he’s gone elsewhere. It would’ve been an easy win that signing. An experienced prop, who eats up the ground and would help guide the youngsters. Im not sure what we want in a prop if we fancied Singleton and fancy Nathan Mason but not Chris Hill. I can only think it’s about finance.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It doesn’t look like we’ve been in for Hill and even if we had been, it sounds like he’s gone elsewhere. It would’ve been an easy win that signing. An experienced prop, who eats up the ground and would help guide the youngsters. Im not sure what we want in a prop if we fancied Singleton and fancy Nathan Mason but not Chris Hill. I can only think it’s about finance.'"
It's not a modern Wigan signing i.e he's too told and, as such, we won't even consider him.
Shame really as we've seen plenty of benefit from guys like Deacon, Withers and Mcavoy. Now I'm not saying the last two were great, but they steadied the ship when we needed an injection of experience. Hill would do that and more and it's what we need.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "I pretty much can get on side with this post but I can’t agree with Thornley/Miski as being the answer; two championship standard players? Nah.
I may be being harsh on Miski. In better times with better prospects I’d back his signing to be honest - my own hypocrisy isn’t lost on me - but with the way we’re looking, the assumed lack of proper squad investment and lack of competent coaches it’s hard to get on board with his and Thornley’s signing.'"
Mike McMeeken was from London Broncos when Castleford got him he turned out to be very good.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Yeah, it was kinda the same with Burgess last year. We could all see he was done, but [iwhat if[/i we could have got him back to fitness.
Can't help but think we massively missed out when we didn't get Mullhearn. He's not set the world alight, but he's better than what we have. You stick him next to Havard and another similar signing and all of a sudden the prop position isn't a massive issue. It wouldn't be as strong as others, but it's solid enough to let our other strengths (HB, 2nd row) be effective.'"
Mulhern has been very very good for us, whilst he's not international class at the moment, he's definitely what we needed in terms of a bench prop to do good minutes and take the pressure of hill and cooper, he adds some punch going forward, and finds the floor well. He's been a good acquisition.
Butler looks a little way off, however had a very good game v leigh the other night
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| Quote: NickyKiss "It doesn’t look like we’ve been in for Hill and even if we had been, it sounds like he’s gone elsewhere. It would’ve been an easy win that signing. An experienced prop, who eats up the ground and would help guide the youngsters. Im not sure what we want in a prop if we fancied Singleton and fancy Nathan Mason but not Chris Hill. I can only think it’s about finance.'"
Hill can’t be that expensive surely? A Wigan lad wanting to finish his career with us would’ve got it over the line.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Hill can’t be that expensive surely? A Wigan lad wanting to finish his career with us would’ve got it over the line.'"
Sounds like Wire offered him a deal, as well as HKR and Huddersfield, so that would drive it up a bit. I couldn’t see it being a fortune but on the flip side, I don’t think he’ll be on a low wage. I wonder with his affiliation with Wire and Leigh, if he’d have been that keen to come hear anyway, especially if he could get better money elsewhere. Guess we’ll never know but it feels like a chance missed to really help fix the prop issue for a couple of years.
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27542_1296773722.jpg RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!
Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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Singleton 56m from 11 carries
Bullock 74m from 9
Clubb 30m from 4
Byrne 67m from 13
Clark 56m from 11
Shorrocks 75m from 15
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| Quote: NSW "Huddersfield
Singleton 56m from 11 carries
Bullock 74m from 9
Clubb 30m from 4
Byrne 67m from 13
Clark 56m from 11
Shorrocks 75m from 15
For context Huddersfield starting props
Luke Yates 176m from 22.
James Gavet 111m from 14
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Can you point me towards where you are getting this info from? Is it available on the internet?
Is the 20m run in to the line for his try included in Clark's figures?
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| Quote: TonyM19 "Can you point me towards where you are getting this info from? Is it available on the internet?
Is the 20m run in to the line for his try included in Clark's figures?'"
Super League website, click on results, match centre, find our game, scroll to the bottom for the individual stats
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