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So it really is spelled: Homophobia, well bugger me.

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Quote: Pie Eyed "Whilst I don't agree with his (zntryes') homophobic comment, I do agree with the underlying sentiment.

I have never understood haw calling someone a rude name carries a FAR harsher penalty than striking, head-shots, etc. - Dangerous and potentially career-ending stuff carries much the same penalties (5-6 matches).

It's not just in our sport. Luis Suarez was given 10 matches for "probably" using some form of racist language, in an argument that took place in Spanish, between a Uruguayan and a French-man, in England, despite no other member of either team hearing either of them call the other anything out of order.

Compare this to the regular 3-matches that are handed out for leg-breaking tackles (maybe 4-5 if it's EXTREMELY bad) and I wonder how they reach these conclusions?

I agree that racism has no place on the field (at least overt racism, as a recent study found that basically everybody is racist to a greater or lesser degree), but how the hell can calling someone a "fag" (as crass as that may be), carry a greater punishment than some of the physical assaults that we have seen in previous years?'"

Well said that man or woman. Massive overreaction to a bit of name calling and this is my view on most so called racist or homophobic incidents. I am prepared for the inevitable PC backlash that this opinion will create with those who actually believe that Zak Hardaker has committed a hate crime. Plainly ridiculous over exaggeration IMO. Too many are being tarred with either a racist or homophobic brush, to an extent that I believe actually harms the rightful efforts to stamp out true racism or homophobia.

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Quote: jinkin jimmy "Well said that man or woman. Massive overreaction to a bit of name calling and this is my view on most so called racist or homophobic incidents. I am prepared for the inevitable PC backlash that this opinion will create with those who actually believe that Zak Hardaker has committed a hate crime. Plainly ridiculous over exaggeration IMO. Too many are being tarred with either a racist or homophobic brush, to an extent that I believe actually harms the rightful efforts to stamp out true racism or homophobia.'"

How interesting that you should use racist terminology to express yourself.

Still, it's all harmless eh?

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Racist terminology? In your opinion! Do you know enough about the origins of the phrase or are you just assuming you know? In which case I think you are being a tad racist!

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Quote: zntyres "So it really is spelledwell bugger me.'"


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heard an interview with McDermott last night on the way back.
I think that they way Leeds, the RFL and Hardaker have handled this has been excellent.

This is one of the aeas where the sport carries itself with dignity and can be proud of its internal policing.
Football can learn a lot about our disciplinary attitudes, codes or practice and structures eg the fact that all matters are dealt with so promptly

well done everyone.

Lets hope this can now be left to a bit of banter in the terraces and slowly fade into a distant memory.

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Quote: ShortArse "heard an interview with McDermott last night on the way back.
I think that they way Leeds, the RFL and Hardaker have handled this has been excellent.

This is one of the aeas where the sport carries itself with dignity and can be proud of its internal policing.
Football can learn a lot about our disciplinary attitudes, codes or practice and structures eg the fact that all matters are dealt with so promptly

well done

Lets hope this can now be left to a bit of banter in the terraces and slowly fade into a distant memory.'"


The club have handled the situation in a very professional manner, clubs and fans need to consider the bigger picture before defending players actions when they are obviously guilty of an offence, well done the Rhinos

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Load of fuss about sod all

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Quote: Aboveusonlypie "How interesting that you should use racist terminology to express yourself.

Still, it's all harmless eh?'"



How is that racist? As far as I am aware it stems from nautical origins. If you're referring to 'tar and feather' (which would be incorrect anyway) that's also not racist as it was something whites did to other whites and so has no connection to racism whatsoever.

In fact you could say that it's more interesting that you immediately jumped to the racist angle here, even when there was none. Sort of backs up what the poster was saying in the first place...

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Quote: JimmyFairhurst "Load of fuss about sod all'"


It seems the laws of the game and the UK legal system have a different view no need for homophobic comments in the game, intended or not

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Quote: stpatricks "It seems the laws of the game and the UK legal system have a different view no need for homophobic comments in the game, intended or not'"


Typical of the "let's look for something to get all offended about and prove our liberal credentials" obsession.

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Im tempted to quote alan partridge but it would probably be seen as a homophobic hate crime type of comment

God created adam and eve, he didnt.......

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Quote: Phuzzy "How is that racist? As far as I am aware it stems from nautical origins. If you're referring to 'tar and feather' (which would be incorrect anyway) that's also not racist as it was something whites did to other whites and so has no connection to racism whatsoever.

In fact you could say that it's more interesting that you immediately jumped to the racist angle here, even when there was none. Sort of backs up what the poster was saying in the first place...'"

As I said, I was prepared for the criticism and knew exactly where it would come from. Ignorant zealots like him/her actually harm the fight against true discrimination.

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Quote: JimmyFairhurst "Typical of the "let's look for something to get all offended about and prove our liberal credentials" obsession.'"


No it's not. Racist and homophobic comments are banned. If a player can't sledge a member of of the opposition without resorting to racist or homophobic comments they are just thick. They know the rules and whether you agree with them or not its pretty simple to avoid breaking them. There are plenty of other ways to wind the opposition up.

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