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For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Tbh I expect the props to go really well with McShane at 9. He controls things exceptionally.
What bemused me last week was how deep our line was when we were just simply driving the ball in. What's the point in the carrier receiving the ball 5-8m back from the PTB? Should be flat or no more than 1m behind the PTB and running onto it.'"
When we did that we dropped the ball!!!
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Bullock 8 carries for 68m, 13 tackles 2 missed
Havard 12 for 161m, 26 and 1 miss
Partington 11 for 64, 32 and 6! misses
Byrne 6 for 26, 16 and 2 misses
Clark 6 for 58, 12 tackles no misses
Shorrocks 13 for 97m, 36 tackles 2 miss.
Not prop related but KPP 97m 37 tackles, 4 tackle burst and 3 offloads.
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| Christ, was Byrne injured?
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| Byrne highlights the exact problem we have and what Lam is doing to these young forwards. He’s ready for a breather, he started the season well but had a nightmare in the cup game and is struggling to recover. Lam should be letting Clark or Bullock pick up the slack and letting Byrne just take a couple of weeks out but he won’t.
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| Quote: NSW "Wakefield
Bullock 8 carries for 68m, 13 tackles 2 missed
Havard 12 for 161m, 26 and 1 miss
Partington 11 for 64, 32 and 6! misses
Byrne 6 for 26, 16 and 2 misses
Clark 6 for 58, 12 tackles no misses
Shorrocks 13 for 97m, 36 tackles 2 miss.
Not prop related but KPP 97m 37 tackles, 4 tackle burst and 3 offloads.'"
Bullock and Clark's figures from a 20 and 10 min spell respectively, why Lam won't leave them out there and give the kids a break is mind boggling, he's destroying any confidence they've got left at the same time as burning out the young lads
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| I really do not know why if reports are true we have signed Bullock. Reports are that we are releasing Akuala, most fans moan he doesnt do enough but its more down to the coach not leaving him on due to trust i think. It seems that Bullock is much the same for you guys either not trusted by the coach or lazy depending on who you speak to. One common denominator is they both started out as wingers!
I'd actually prefer to keep Akuala than sign Bullock. No doubt you guys may say the other way round. All opinions.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouWolves "I really do not know why if reports are true we have signed Bullock. Reports are that we are releasing Akuala, most fans moan he doesnt do enough but its more down to the coach not leaving him on due to trust i think. It seems that Bullock is much the same for you guys either not trusted by the coach or lazy depending on who you speak to. One common denominator is they both started out as wingers!
I'd actually prefer to keep Akuala than sign Bullock. No doubt you guys may say the other way round. All opinions.'"
as much as i like sita, his cardio hasn't improved at all over the last 4 years
he was bent over blowing out of his after five minutes last night and that was with the stoppage for tyke.
i like his hit ups, but theyre few and far between so are his minutes, but his suspension record is a bit daft as well, picks up bans with weird innocuous stuff.
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| Quote: NSW "Wakefield
Bullock 8 carries for 68m, 13 tackles 2 missed
Havard 12 for 161m, 26 and 1 miss
Partington 11 for 64, 32 and 6! misses
Byrne 6 for 26, 16 and 2 misses
Clark 6 for 58, 12 tackles no misses
Shorrocks 13 for 97m, 36 tackles 2 miss.
Not prop related but KPP 97m 37 tackles, 4 tackle burst and 3 offloads.'"
Byrne should not be playing he is injured.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouWolves "I really do not know why if reports are true we have signed Bullock. Reports are that we are releasing Akuala, most fans moan he doesnt do enough but its more down to the coach not leaving him on due to trust i think. It seems that Bullock is much the same for you guys either not trusted by the coach or lazy depending on who you speak to. One common denominator is they both started out as wingers!
I'd actually prefer to keep Akuala than sign Bullock. No doubt you guys may say the other way round. All opinions.'"
If you could transplant Partington's desire, fitness, commitment and tackling technique into Bullock then you would have one of the top props in the game.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "Byrne highlights the exact problem we have and what Lam is doing to these young forwards. He’s ready for a breather, he started the season well but had a nightmare in the cup game and is struggling to recover. Lam should be letting Clark or Bullock pick up the slack and letting Byrne just take a couple of weeks out but he won’t.'"
Byrne is injured and shouldn't be playing.
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| Our senior props, when there's only two, should be doing 50-60 mins. Havard & Byrne, should be doing 20-30 mins. Bullock's stats aren't bad for a 15 min and 5 min spell. The younger lads are flogging it tackling everything going but haven't any gas left to make meters. Havard being last night's exception.
We just don't have any outside backs to make meters out of our own 1-30 mtr area. Bibby, Isa & Marshall aren't big enough to do that. I still go back to Gelling & Charnley who made over 100 mtrs a game and sometimes 200 or near enough!
Thornley and the London wingman maybe are being signed to rectify that problem. With French and Field out there it maybe their pace could be used to put us on the front foot.
We certainly need new props but I have a feeling that this season we're going to have to go with what we've got. Many players sign but don't want news getting out as they are already playing at a rival SL club.
One thing the club must consider is how do they stop these dreadful performances. Poor team selection, poor to non existent game plan, 53% goal kicking, lack of go forward throughout the team and squad.
Watching these young lads getting battered every week is not pleasant viewing.
Only one thing seems to be left.............
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| Quote: Father Ted "Our senior props, when there's only two, should be doing 50-60 mins. Havard & Byrne, should be doing 20-30 mins. Bullock's stats aren't bad for a 15 min and 5 min spell. The younger lads are flogging it tackling everything going but haven't any gas left to make meters. Havard being last night's exception.
We just don't have any outside backs to make meters out of our own 1-30 mtr area. Bibby, Isa & Marshall aren't big enough to do that. I still go back to Gelling & Charnley who made over 100 mtrs a game and sometimes 200 or near enough!
Thornley and the London wingman maybe are being signed to rectify that problem. With French and Field out there it maybe their pace could be used to put us on the front foot.
We certainly need new props but I have a feeling that this season we're going to have to go with what we've got. Many players sign but don't want news getting out as they are already playing at a rival SL club.
One thing the club must consider is how do they stop these dreadful performances. Poor team selection, poor to non existent game plan, 53% goal kicking, lack of go forward throughout the team and squad.
Watching these young lads getting battered every week is not pleasant viewing.
Only one thing seems to be left.............'"
I pretty much can get on side with this post but I can’t agree with Thornley/Miski as being the answer; two championship standard players? Nah.
I may be being harsh on Miski. In better times with better prospects I’d back his signing to be honest - my own hypocrisy isn’t lost on me - but with the way we’re looking, the assumed lack of proper squad investment and lack of competent coaches it’s hard to get on board with his and Thornley’s signing.
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| You could do a lot worse than Chris Hill. Wire only offered him 12 month allegedly. Hull KR want him along with Watts, are the rumours.
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| Quote: rubber duckie "You could do a lot worse than Chris Hill. Wire only offered him 12 month allegedly. Hull KR want him along with Watts, are the rumours.'"
Signed for Huddersfield 2 year contract
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| Quote: rubber duckie "You could do a lot worse than Chris Hill. Wire only offered him 12 month allegedly. Hull KR want him along with Watts, are the rumours.'"
He’s not been in form but I’d be tempted to offer a deal to Liam Watts.
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