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Only once before have the club moved away from the traditional crest. The 1998 and 1999 Nike Shirts saw a change to a logo with a large white W.
https://www.classicrugbyshirts.com/1998 ... 2221-p.asp
Does anyone remember much supporter animosity at the time? Obviously this was in the days prior to social media, or even Internet sites back in 1998 (for most anyway).
The club soon moved back to the crest in 2000, so did low shirt sales over the two seasons affect this decision bearing in mind we went to Wembley and the grand final in 98?
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Only once before have the club moved away from the traditional crest. The 1998 and 1999 Nike Shirts saw a change to a logo with a large white W.
https://www.classicrugbyshirts.com/1998 ... 2221-p.asp
Does anyone remember much supporter animosity at the time? Obviously this was in the days prior to social media, or even Internet sites back in 1998 (for most anyway).
The club soon moved back to the crest in 2000, so did low shirt sales over the two seasons affect this decision bearing in mind we went to Wembley and the grand final in 98?
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Quote ="MattyB"Only once before have the club moved away from the traditional crest. The 1998 and 1999 Nike Shirts saw a change to a logo with a large white W.
https://www.classicrugbyshirts.com/1998 ... 2221-p.asp
Does anyone remember much supporter animosity at the time? Obviously this was in the days prior to social media, or even Internet sites back in 1998 (for most anyway).
The club soon moved back to the crest in 2000, so did low shirt sales over the two seasons affect this decision bearing in mind we went to Wembley and the grand final in 98?'"
We also had the Warrior logo back then too for marketing and commercial use.
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Quote ="MattyB"Only once before have the club moved away from the traditional crest. The 1998 and 1999 Nike Shirts saw a change to a logo with a large white W.
https://www.classicrugbyshirts.com/1998 ... 2221-p.asp
Does anyone remember much supporter animosity at the time? Obviously this was in the days prior to social media, or even Internet sites back in 1998 (for most anyway).
The club soon moved back to the crest in 2000, so did low shirt sales over the two seasons affect this decision bearing in mind we went to Wembley and the grand final in 98?'"
We also had the Warrior logo back then too for marketing and commercial use.
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| The more I see it the more it grows on me . I'm not saying it's better than the club Crest it's not. But in certainly stands out when you see it on social media wigan tv interviews etc . Its aimed at the younger age group which are more likely to be bought into buying merchandise with this badge on. Now the adult fans who are kicking off about it i understand why but arnt we being a bit blinkered and childish moaning about a badge for God's sake as long as the club do well I'm not going to get worked up over a club badge. Just my opinion of course ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Exactly, it's not about attracting more younger people as you do that by having a team who are successful, a good squad of players and a better public relations with your supporters as well as consultations with supporters when you are going to make major decisions to alter the club badge and re-brand the club. Surely, it is obvious that in a Rugby mad town like Wigan, the decision is more about it being cheaper to produce replica shirts and other clothing with the new badge than what it has been to produce the more expensive Ancient & Loyal badge.
Perhaps, it would have been more acceptable to supporters if the Ancient & Lodge badge was to be kept on the playing/replica shirts, Coats, training gear etc with the the new badge on other leisure ware. I can see the point of younger supporters not wanting to go out at night wearing a item of clothing with the Ancient & Loyal badge on it.
The club in its defence has said that it has consulted supporters on the matter, but how many season ticket holders, especially those have never asked for a refund of this season's ticket were dv
I have been a supporter for fifty years and a season ticket holder for more or less the same time, but nobody at the club ever made contact with me.'"
Where do you get we are a rugby mad town from??
I think part of the current financial issues relates to insufficient crowds and limited income streams in other areas.
I don't like the new badge but maybe I'll become indifferent to it
If the relaunch of the brand helps the club I'm ok I just thought the timing of the launch couldn't have been worse and I'm pretty amazed that IL signed off a bland and another run of the emblem you could pick off a shelf. If had to pay circa £50k or even possibly higher for these services I'd be pretty disappointed in myself.
As I've said in a previous post on reflection to change wasn't ambitious enough I suspect through via supporters who formed part of the review.The strapline Ancient & Loyal combined with The Warriors is meaningless and confusing. If we are now The Warriors we should drop the Ancient & Loyal as soon as conscience allows us.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"All very well, but what happens if all the clubs who adopted a name of a person or animal at the start of Super League decide to follow the example of Wakefield Trinity who got rid of the Wildcat image.
If that happens it will mean another new badge, which would not be the case with the Ancient & Loyal badge.'"
Agreed. I love the Ancient & Loyal crest and much prefer it to the new design. I wish they hadn’t decided to meddle with it and wish the rugby powers that be hadn’t decided to meddle with most clubs’ names when the Super League era began.
I’m fully in the ‘leave it be’ camp but since IL & Co have decided upon change, I think they are right in incorporating a warrior within the badge. Nobody will be more pleased than me if the idea is shelved after one season due to the adverse reaction of our support. If not, so be it. We carry on regardless. There are much more important things to worry about.
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| When did the badge actually become a thing on the shirt ?
I've posted pics of Boston and Ashton without badges on their shirts but I've also seen same players at Wembley with badges, did we roll them out for special occasions ?
Also just watched the famous Murphy rant video from '83, again no badges on the shirt.
Was it when Uncle Mo decided to go full time it became the norm ? Pretty sure we had the crest on the shirt at Wembley "84 and onwards from then.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"When did the badge actually become a thing on the shirt ?
I've posted pics of Boston and Ashton without badges on their shirts but I've also seen same players at Wembley with badges, did we roll them out for special occasions ?
Also just watched the famous Murphy rant video from '83, again no badges on the shirt.
Was it when Uncle Mo decided to go full time it became the norm ? Pretty sure we had the crest on the shirt at Wembley "84 and onwards from then.'"
The '83 shirts were made by Bukta and didn't have a crest on them. It was only when Umbro came along in 84' that we had badges on all shirts and supporters shirts became a big thing. We didn't even have a shirt sponsor pre 84.
Boring fact... football shirts weren't allowed to have their sponsors on when they were on TV up until 1983'ish.
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| Quote ="Pemps"The '83 shirts were made by Bukta and didn't have a crest on them. It was only when Umbro came along in 84' that we had badges on all shirts and supporters shirts became a big thing. We didn't even have a shirt sponsor pre 84.
Boring fact... football shirts weren't allowed to have their sponsors on when they were on TV up until 1983'ish.'"
Did you watch the ITV program that was on around July time about Admiral making the first football replica shirts in the late 60s early 70s?
Great program
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Sidntou watch the ITV program that was on around July time about Admiral making the first football replica shirts in the late 60s early 70s?
Great program'"
It was. Their innovative approach was both the reason for their success and, ultimately, their downfall. Made for a great watch though.
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| It's on the new shirt for next year colours cherry and dark cherry
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| Fine with a badge change, just not happy with the badge we're stuck with.
It's almost there but the fact they haven't got the shade of red right on either bothers me. The logo featured on the website is maroon, and the one on the new home shirt a bright block red picked straight from Microsoft Paint.
Would have like to see some gradient on there, much like when Man City changed their badge. It's blue and white, but theres a few gradients on there which adds so much more depth.
That being said, the badge looks tidy on the training wear when it's all white, would prefer us to switch to this.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Did you watch the ITV program that was on around July time about Admiral making the first football replica shirts in the late 60s early 70s?
Great program'"
You ever kissed a girl son?
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| Former players and supporters who have sadly passed away must be turning in their graves to see what is now happening at the club.
Not content with getting rid of the historic and traditional Ancient & Loyal club badge, they now produce a shirt design which is alien to the famous Cherry & White hoop colours of the club which have been there for over a century.
Lenagan and Radlinski should be ashamed in what they are doing not only to the club, but also the town of Wigan
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Former players and supporters who have sadly passed away must be turning in their graves to see what is now happening at the club.
Not content with getting rid of the historic and traditional Ancient & Loyal club badge, they now produce a shirt design which is alien to the famous Cherry & White hoop colours of the club which have been there for over a century.
Lenagan and Radlinski should be ashamed in what they are doing not only to the club, but also the town of Wigan'"
Lenagan and Radlinski OUT!!!!
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Former players and supporters who have sadly passed away must be turning in their graves to see what is now happening at the club.
Not content with getting rid of the historic and traditional Ancient & Loyal club badge, they now produce a shirt design which is alien to the famous Cherry & White hoop colours of the club which have been there for over a century.
Lenagan and Radlinski should be ashamed in what they are doing not only to the club, but also the town of Wigan'"
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Former players and supporters who have sadly passed away must be turning in their graves to see what is now happening at the club.
Not content with getting rid of the historic and traditional Ancient & Loyal club badge, they now produce a shirt design which is alien to the famous Cherry & White hoop colours of the club which have been there for over a century.
Lenagan and Radlinski should be ashamed in what they are doing not only to the club, but also the town of Wigan'"
It's only the 4th (5th if you count this year) one they've done
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| New shirt? I think it's a cracker.
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| Quote ="MattyB"New shirt? I think it's a cracker.'"
I like it
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| No doubt the usual minority who never see the club doing anything wrong as long as it winning games will of course like both the badge and shirt.
Thankfully, judging by the many comments on the local social media over the last few days, the majority of supporters and people of Wigan think different!
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I like it'"
Me too.
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| It’s fine for a Man Utd 2nd strip but not as a Wigan rugby shirt.
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| Quote ="hatty"It’s fine for a Man Utd 2nd strip but not as a Wigan rugby shirt.'"
I have hated all of the experimental kits;
2011 - 85 kit that someone boil washed
2014 - terrible HULL KR shirt
2017 - says a lot that that was the best of the bunch they had us vote on
This one looks miles better though and while i'd rather it was white than black, it's a nice shirt. If I had one complaint (aside from the badge) it's a miniscule one and a pretty sad one really i'll be honest...there is a red vee on the socks again.
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| 2011 shirt, everyone goes in meltdown
One of if not the best selling shirt ever
Wigan dont try things and they get criticised for poor marketting
They try things and get criticised
Let's put it to a vote, put 4 shirts up and let fans decide
Vote picks option B at 50% and the other 50% who voted for the other 3 options complain.
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| I don’t like the badge (although it’s growing on my a little) but I really like the shirt but it needed white in it. We are losing identity with that really. Just have the stripes white with black lining and it wouldn’t have been so bad.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Lenagan and Radlinski OUT!!!!'"
Just Rads for me, the guy means well but just because he was a good player doesn't mean he's any good at running a club. Most of his ideas are terrible.
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