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| Quote Tony Soprano="Tony Soprano"Has he signed for warrington?'"
Nothing official yet but it's been rumoured for about 3 years.
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"Nothing official yet but it's been rumoured for about 3 years.'"
Thanks, he may well end up at wire but if it's not official it's never a certainty
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"I think you are overstating Clark's ability and importance.
To suggest he is head and shoulders above Roby is staggering.
I'd also suggest that you miss O'Loughlin far more than Cas would miss Clark. If he was that vital to them I reckon he would be in the starting 13 every week and play more minutes.'"
Cas have a great combination of hookers in Milner and Clarke, both excellent young players who compliment themselves very well.
Clarke for me is far superior to Roby who in comparison to Clarke is fairly one dimensional. Don't get me wrong Roby is very good but Clarke is something else.
He has definatley signed for Wire by the way although rumour is now he is trying to wriggle out of it, Cas took a big wedge for him a year or so back when they had a bit of financial trouble.
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| Quote Tony Soprano="Tony Soprano"Has he signed for warrington?'"
Yes.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Cas have a great combination of hookers in Milner and Clarke, both excellent young players who compliment themselves very well.
Clarke for me is far superior to Roby who in comparison to Clarke is fairly one dimensional. Don't get me wrong Roby is very good but Clarke is something else.
He has definatley signed for Wire by the way although rumour is now he is trying to wriggle out of it, Cas took a big wedge for him a year or so back when they had a bit of financial trouble.'"
I'm shocked you right him so highly above Roby but each to their own I suppose.
I'm sure your opinion would be the same if Roby wasn't a Saints player. 
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"I'm shocked you right him so highly above Roby but each to their own I suppose.
I'm sure your opinion would be the same if Roby wasn't a Saints player.
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Roby is a player who is clearly very talented and a great SL player, one of the best but I think Clarke could well be considered World Class at the end of his career.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"Roby is a player who is clearly very talented and a great SL player, one of the best but I think Clarke could well be considered World Class at the end of his career.'"
I don't doubt that at all mate, I'm just not sure he is there just yet that's all.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Let's be honest - it's Roby by plenty as pretty much any non-Wigan fan would agree.'"
If you were prepared to let Roby go to Bradford, I'd happily do a swap deal with McIlorum.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"I love this overly simplistic view of hookers "outperforming", judged in blissful isolation of the pack they are behind. It's just such utter nonsense.
How do you reckon Roby would have fared behind packs as dominant as Wigan's has been in recent seasons against Saints? He would have absolutely crucified Saints behind that Wigan pack.
MM is a hard hitting (but hit and miss) defender and a true 100% player, which is why Wigan fans love him and I can understand that.
But Roby he ain't, he's not even very close.
Roby has been poor this year by his standards (and I don't know how many games MM has played by comparison) but for thise calling him just a stat machine, how about:
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4 tries - MM zero
9 assists - MM zero
25 busts - MM 8
4 clean breaks - MM 1
8 attacking kicks - MM zero
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MM missing nearly four times as many of his tackles made than Roby (despite Roby doing a gigantic amount more work in both attack and defence)
4 penalties - MM 6
Let's be honest - it's Roby by plenty as pretty much any non-Wigan fan would agree.'"
Stats lie. Just going back one game to the Leeds game MM should be awarded an assist for Wigan's first try. He made it with his dominant run and quick play the ball. Just one example.
To answer the OP, for Wigan I'm wouldn't swap him with anyone however I would happily fake a Roby, Clark or Lunt to come off the bench.
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| Quote Eastbourne Warrior="Eastbourne Warrior"Stats lie. Just going back one game to the Leeds game MM should be awarded an assist for Wigan's first try. He made it with his dominant run and quick play the ball. Just one example.
To answer the OP, for Wigan I'm wouldn't swap him with anyone however I would happily fake a Roby, Clark or Lunt to come off the bench.'"
So if you get a quick play the ball in the tackle prior to a try then you should get an assist?
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| Quote Nogga="Nogga"There's a topic on the VT about English hookers. Fans of other clubs clearly don't rate (don't like) him.
I stated that I wouldn't swap him for any other English hooker. People on there are saying the likes of Lunt, Hodgson and Houghton are better than McIlorum.
Roby and Clarke are in the top three with McIlorum imo.
For me Roby isn't the threat he once was and I don't fear him like I once did, although he is still a top quality player.
Clarke has the x-factor and does the eye catching stuff but I haven't seen enough of him to judge his all round game.
Would any Wigan fan swap Micky Mac for any other English hooker? If yes, who would you swap him for and why?'"
The truth is somewhere inbetween. He's nowhere near as bad as opposition fans claim, he's underrated in that regard.
But he's probably not as good as some wigan fans make out either.
I like him as a hooker and would take him at leeds. He's clever and aggressive. He doesn't have the running game the likes of roby have, but they don't have his guile.
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| 1st October 2011, the last time Roby got the better of MM in a head to head.
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