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| Quote: Cruncher "
No they don't. People on here can believe what they like it's their personal entitlement. People, myself included are refraining from opening speaking about the truth due to the nature of the people involved.
However people can't respect that and push for answers.
No one in here is held accountable to any other posters, if they feel unwilling to accept it then so be it.
Myself and other posters simply offered a suggestion than there maybe another side to the story, as in all truth there is.
Like always on here the tone became argumentative, and demanding.
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "
Like always on here the tone became argumentative, and demanding.'"
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| Quote: Cruncher "Ultimately, IL's comments about Hock messing Maguire about as well as Wane nullify all the statements to the effect that Wane is somehow in the wrong. '"
That doesn't follow at all. He could have messed Madge about all the time he was here but that doesn't prove Wane didn't do anything wrong himself.
Quote: Cruncher "Clearly, Hock has an issue with coaches - i.e. those in charge of imposing discipline on him.'"
How do you know he has an issue with coaches in general? He didn't seem to have any before the ban as far as I am aware.
Quote: Cruncher " For that reason alone, I strongly doubt he will ever play for Wigan again. IL's own comments - about Hock letting the club down - then seem to reinforce this.
Those insisting that it's a waiting game for Wane to get his marching orders, sound increasingly like Gareth's mates, parroting what the player himself hopes for rather than what he seriously expects.'"
I don't think he will be back either. It would be an amazing U turn for the club given IL's statement. I think that would be the case even if the rumours about what really lies behind it turn out to be true. |
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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.'
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Like always on here the tone became argumentative, and demanding.'"
Not exactly demanding. Most just politely asked for PMs to understand what's (allegedly) gone on better. |
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| Quote: ksm1701 "Not exactly demanding. Most just politely asked for PMs to understand what's (allegedly) gone on better.'"
Politely? Ha! What a joke. Often criticised for offering a counter. Regardless of such hopefully all will come out in due time, but not from me. |
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "No they don't. People on here can believe what they like it's their personal entitlement. People, myself included are refraining from opening speaking about the truth due to the nature of the people involved.
However people can't respect that and push for answers.
No one in here is held accountable to any other posters, if they feel unwilling to accept it then so be it.
Myself and other posters simply offered a suggestion than there maybe another side to the story, as in all truth there is.
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No you didn't. You've been saying the club chairman is lying and that anyone who believes him is totally naive - without a shred of evidence or explanation.
And people are not asking you to speak openly, they are asking you for a pm.
What is so controversial about that? |
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I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league
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| Quote: Sharpy_4a "Usually due to it being a load of old rubbish. Hock himself has had his chance to put his side accross and hasnt.
If my proffesionalism was brought into question publicly by my employer I would be coming clean with everything I had. That he isnt speaks volumes!
His silence on the matter says more than a few frank dux types on here who pretend to know what happemed but convieniently cant say dont you think!'"
I agree totally with the first two paragraphs. Not so sure about the 3rd. If rumours regarding Hock's circle of friends are true you might not want to be posting something on here that you shouldn't, especially if the person who told you is someone not to annoy. Saying that the whole 'i know something you dont know' thing is  |
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| Quote: Cruncher "Quote: Cruncher "No they don't. People on here can believe what they like it's their personal entitlement. People, myself included are refraining from opening speaking about the truth due to the nature of the people involved.
However people can't respect that and push for answers.
No one in here is held accountable to any other posters, if they feel unwilling to accept it then so be it.
Myself and other posters simply offered a suggestion than there maybe another side to the story, as in all truth there is.
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No you didn't. You've been saying the club chairman is lying and that anyone who believes him is totally naive - without a shred of evidence or explanation.
And people are not asking you to speak openly, they are asking you for a pm.
What is so controversial about that?'"
Exactly. If you aren't prepared to back your comments up then don't make them. |
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| Quote: Cruncher "No you didn't. You've been saying the club chairman is lying and that anyone who believes him is totally naive - without a shred of evidence or explanation.
And people are not asking you to speak openly, they are asking you for a pm.
What is so controversial about that?'"
I never once said anyone was lying, including IL.
And I don't want to PM people, it's my decision not to say anything naming names considering who's involved. |
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And if, as has been suggested by some, the club should have been helping him to sort personal problems with "people you should not annoy", surely that's a matter for the authorities, not his employer.
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Well if these people on here claim to know what has happened can you please logon to the Wakefield board and find the related thread and post and let us know if this is the case?
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "And if, as has been suggested by some, the club should have been helping him to sort personal problems with "people you should not annoy", surely that's a matter for the authorities, not his employer.'"
Clearly you have no idea what's going on. |
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| Quote: Last Son of Wigan "I never once said anyone was lying, including IL.
And I don't want to PM people, it's my decision not to say anything naming names considering who's involved.'"
Who's asking you to name names other than GH, SW or IL?
The comment that more players will leave because of it is the big one imo. |
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