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Really poor performance on the back of a great cup win. Sums up the Wane era really.

Although I've bought my ticket, if it means the end of Wane I'd happily see us lose at Wembley in a few weeks time. We need a clear out.

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Gelling is truly woeful...and yes, i've said it for weeks! He offers nothing and his defense tonight is the poorest i've seen in a long time.

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Quote: RichieS "Gelling is truly woeful...and yes, i've said it for weeks! He offers nothing and his defense tonight is the poorest i've seen in a long time.'"


I like him but his defence has been woeful tonight.The team performance in that second half was shocking and it's all about one game now.

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Quote: RichieS "Gelling is truly woeful...and yes, i've said it for weeks! He offers nothing and his defense tonight is the poorest i've seen in a long time.'"


Gelling wouldn't get a game at Judes..

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He is surrounded by great tacklers on the left...he has Bateman, Davies and TL for support yet still seems to fall off tackles and simply go missing!

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Gellings been way off all year. The blokes got talent in abundance but he's really letting himself down this year and it feels like he needs to start again and have to earn his place back.

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I'm a big Gelling fan and have defended him this season but tonight was woeful. I would drop him next week.

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I've defended him for years but I can't this year. There's being a comedian and then there's being a clown! You need to earn the right to act the fool mid match and he ain't. M

The away game at Cas summed his year up perfectly. Awfully defence to concede a try then gave him and stepped off the field in the motion of the second being scored.

He needs a kick up the backside.

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Absolute turnstile in defence, he needs dropping immediately. Burgess & Gildart at centre and Davies & Manfredi / Marshall to the wings. He was lucky to get away with punting the ball after stoppage in play too icon_rolleyes.gif

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I agree Gelling's showing was pretty indefensible, but he wasn't the only one. and if we do drop him, please God not Burgess to centre again; that just doesn't work.

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Quote: moto748 "I agree Gelling's showing was pretty indefensible, but he wasn't the only one. and if we do drop him, please God not Burgess to centre again; that just doesn't work.'"


I'm not saying drop him because we have a better replacement, it's more for a kick up his ass!Maybe even but Bateman there for a bit.
I think he's a good player and has the attributes to be a top player,his defence has always been pretty good and his ability to make yards has been his strongest attribute but this year they've been lacking. I guess he's got an injury and if so he shouldn't be playing even if we are thin at centre.

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I would rather see Davies at centre with Manfredi on his flank for the remainder of the season and happily allow Gelling to join Widnes or wherever will have him...spend the remainder of this season working with Davies at centre and pending a full pre-season give him the #3 shirt!

I would also make it very clear to Burgess that his performances need to improve, I for one am hoping Marshall gets a chance to play outside of Gildart before seasons end...I can see him scoring a few trys.

Also did I hear correctly last night that Phil Clarke believes Liam Sutcliffes best position is left centre?

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I guess we don't don't know whether Davies has it in him to make a successful centre. What is for sure is that based on his performances, he certainly doesn't deserve to be dropped, for Manfredi or anyone else.

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Quote: CobraCraig "I'm not saying drop him because we have a better replacement, it's more for a kick up his ass! Maybe even put Bateman there for a bit.
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Yes, agreed. I said the same on another thread. I've never been a Gelling hater, but on recent performances he just doesn't deserve a place in the side.

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Davies, Lockers and Gildart are the first names on the sheet at the moment. These players cannot be dropped. Everyone else has a lot to prove. Even the ever dependable Bateman has been alarmingly quiet for the past few games.Gelling and Ganson were abysmal in defence last night as were a few others. I am going to go easy on Sam as in the past few games he has started showing glimpses again, little dummies here and there. Looks like he is putting it together a bit but when everyone in front of you keep giving penalties away, putting up garbage kicks and letting attacking players walk through them what is he supposed to do?

Just to add :- FPN, an absolute disgrace to the shirt. Somebody please sign him so we can get a prop who can make yards, tackle and is a little more disciplined.

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