I totally agree. But it begs the question why wasn't he chosen Coach of the Year. Here you have a man who coached a team that was written off at the start of the season but went on to do the double and he is passed over for the honour. Of all the crazy decisions ( and there have been many ) this surely ranks as the worst.

To be fair, the coach of the year decision was made BEFORE the Grand Final.

Which is another daft decision just like choosing the Lance Todd winner with about 20 minutes to go Why? The match isn't over so how can anyone judge fairly who made the best contribution to the game. The season isn't over and the main match of the season still to play so how can you fairly judge who was the best coach. Why does the Lance Todd winner have to be announced during the match and why do we have to have the awards dinner before the season is over. Only in Rugby League do you get such craziness.
It's akin to giving a boxer a points decision with a round still to go.

But he opted to play for a rival country so I would never consider him for England. GB yes but not England. I would rather have Rangi Chase at least he wants to play for England...

I would have both Farrell and McIllorum in today.

The England job is not a full time position. I am sure he could comfortably take it on.

In terms people discussing Goulding and his selection, please also remember Jack Reed, if fit he is our number 1 centre, do that leaves Watkins, Cudjo and Goulding, and to be fair to the former 2 of that 3 both have gone well so far this tournament.

Wane has been nominated for International Coach of the Year by the RLIF, along with Maguire and Robinson.

With a good coach we would still be in the World Cup. Poor selection policy, Ablett not used, Burrow 15 woeful minutes poor tactics etc.

We have the makings if a good team. A fearsome starting pack and some good young players.

Wane needs to be given a chance to build towards the next World Cup and the first thing he needs to do is advise, Burrow, Westwood, and Sinfield to retire and make Burgess the captain.

Not sure anyone can blame a 2 point loss against the Kiwis on McN (wasn't it a Graham penalty that gifted it to them at the end of the day). I'm not that much of a fan, but knee-jerk baying for blood helps nobody.

Smith resigned as full-time coach because we was bored, Wane would be taking a major step backwards if he left us for the national side. There simply aren't the number of games (at the moment) to justify the job. Additionally, I would guess that McN knows he needs to maintain his position, because he's actually not rated as a coach that any of the SL clubs would jump to recruit (lower leagues maybe, but I don't think he's that much of a philanthropist).

Also - HANDS OFF ! Personally I'd like to see the Ape swinging around the DW (and Wembley & Old Trafford) for a couple of years more at least.

Knee jerk? He should never have been given the job. You think playing the World Champions with only 16 players was good coaching?

Having 3 players walk out or leave camp? Being poor against most teams in the comp?

Only selecting Widdop for today etc etc etc.

The man has consistently failed as our coach.

The England job is not a full time role, it does not need to be anyway. Wane could comfortably do both.

It was Burgess by the way who gave away the penalty off the back of shocking kick selection by Sinfield.

Knee-jerk on the back of today's effort, not the campaign as a whole, which has been dire, inconsistent and very poorly managed (& it's not just McN to blame for that).
As I said, I'm no fan of the man as a coach or tactician (and my expletive replete rant in the middle of the office when he was appointed is still mentioned in dispatches - luckily there weren't that many in that day) . But if there's going to be a cogent argument for replacing him it shouldn't start 5 minutes after such a game as this afternoon. Take a deep breath, step back and calmly list the many reasons why he should be given the push. But don't also then demand that any successful SL coach should take his place. I'm often minded that a national coach should be someone with more than a couple of years' experience with the nous & guile to be able to cope with anything because they've seen it all before.
(and I'll sit corrected on the blame for the penalty)

The discussion for him being replaced was done and finished long before this World Cup.

His contract is now up I believe, he knows he will be gone I suspect.

It's just a matter about making the appointment.

If Macbanana was Wigan coach what would we think?

He is not Super league standard so why is he our national coach.

Sinfield needs to retire and hopefully IFL can change the RFL enough to stop the national coach picking Leeds players.

I don't get why Sir KeV was our scrum half when that is not his normal position