I think Field will probably play next against Hull KR. 

It's a very good point and I think you're right. Annoying to lose any game but I've always felt this side needs some adversity to bounce back from, to find it's best. 

I thought we were ok tonight in the main. Leeds love this fixture and played with an intensity I've not seen much of this season. We're unfortunate with the header and Peet needs to start having some words with the refs bosses, to find out what we're doing so differently to other teams. We lost 80% of the penalty counts last year and it's just carried on. We're the first dominant force in Superleague history to consistently be on the wrong end of penalty counts (before we even move on to 6 against). 

I thought Farrimond wasn't really able to have an impact on the game last night, so we were pretty short in terms of creativity (yet still had a few opportunities that were missed by small margins). Despite his fumble leading to a Leeds try, I thought Douglas played well. He seems to punch above his weight when carrying out from the back.

We lost ,move on (said that before)


Its a blip.as said we need some adversity to kick us up the ar*e,this will be sorted.
To put it into context-Havard,O'Neil,Miski,Field,Keiron-all first teamers all missing,I know all teams have injuries but so do we.


Also how good are Wigan that when we lose it is a shock but when we win its not and it is expected. 

MadDogg: Losing the game off the back of a header doesn't feel right. Don't understand that rule at all.  Thought Wigan were OK in the conditions. A few daft decisions in good ball but defensively we were decent. Losing Field obviously has a big impact - French just doesn't have the same level of fitness in that position.  Don't mind us facing a bit of adversity actually. Puts a bit more significance on each game.  I remember when headers became knock ons  after saints did a few of these  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q2xSbNYfUgI style="font-size: 13px;"> I was pretty convinced the Leeds try was going to be disallowed , but it was given , didnt realise the rules had changed back at some point .

MadDogg: Losing the game off the back of a header doesn't feel right. Don't understand that rule at all.  Thought Wigan were OK in the conditions. A few daft decisions in good ball but defensively we were decent. Losing Field obviously has a big impact - French just doesn't have the same level of fitness in that position.  Don't mind us facing a bit of adversity actually. Puts a bit more significance on each game.  I remember when headers became knock ons  after saints did a few of these  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q2xSbNYfUgI style="font-size: 13px;"> I was pretty convinced the Leeds try was going to be disallowed , but it was given , didnt realise the rules had changed back at some point .

Might be wrong but I thought the rule was you couldn't deliberately head it forward, fair to say Hall new precious little about what happened, good luck for Leeds, bad for us

Yes, that how its done now since Saints started to head it on purpose. A knock on can only come from a part of the body that can "score a try".

You’ve had Alex Ferguson in to motivate the team before, why don’t you get him back to have a word with the ref’s bosses. Better still, you could buy him a shed load of chewing gum and have him stood on the touch line every week going purple in the face. My guess why you’re penalised so much would be slowing down the play the ball, offside etc.  You don’t seem a particularly dirty team at the moment, just lots of regular low level infringements.

I would say you were getting a much faster play the ball then we were permitted on Saturday night, some of it was earned as you were playing on the front foot but some of it felt excessive.

By god your fans can moan too. Congrats on the win though regardless, the deserved team did win on the night even if it was by a lucky head of the ball and questionably given conversion.

Maybe read the 'Discipline' thread and comment there. You'll see that we actually don't get penalized more than other teams. We lose the penalty counts because other teams get penalized less when playing us than when they play any other team in the league. Which means they're either all changing the way they play (highly unlikely, I think you'll agree) or something irregular is going on. We lose penalty counts even when comprehensively beating teams. I believe Huddersfield didn't have a single penalty awarded against them recently even though we thrashed them and were on the front foot. Highly unusual, no?