Yes. Surely it cant be controversial to say that despite being a very good rugby league player, Garry Schofield wasn’t particularly successful.

The relevance of my definition of success (im yet to see anyone else actually put one forward as of yet, just the same, weird Wigan obsession with Ricky Bibey) is that it was an explanation of why the use of that word by Sgt Wilko was correct. It is fact that Ali Lauitiiti has been the most successful overseas player in the SL era.

Lauaki’s ball handling isn’t, and hasn’t, been anywhere near the level of Ali’s. I remember him bombing a try by failing to make a very very simple pass to give the player outside him a simple run at the line. His actual passing ability is relatively poor. He does have a decent (not great) offload but his footwork is nothing to write home about.

There's no obsession with Ricky Bibey. He's just an example of how pointless it is to praise a player for being "succcessful" on the basis of trophies won. As I said, your definition of success reduces the the "fact" to one of pub quiz trivia level. The fact that one the greatest players in the modern era of RL, Leeds own Garry Schofield was massively "unsuccessful" on your definition, despite playing international RL and being considered one of the best players in British RL year after year shows how little value there is in your definition.

Other definitions of successful overseas player might for example take into account value for money - in which case George Carmont would fit the bill, he has been a huge success for Wigan.

Other definitions would look at the personal achievements and standard of play shown by the player in question - Garry was successful in terms of achieving international honours and receiving the plaudits of the RL press, players and fans, playing at the top of the sport in this country for many years.. He obviously wasn't a failure as a player (his punditry is a different matter ), although he played in a team which clearly wasn't successful.

From a Wigan perspective Edwards is the most successful player the club (and indeed the British game) has seen but Wigan fans don't particularly go on about it in the context of discussions about the relative merits of Wigan players because it just doesn't mean much. He may have won more medals than Hanley or Boston, but....

Not sure what you are trying to prove, but it's all a non-point in reality.

No Ali was part of the most successful TEAM in the SL era. Fact.

In case you had not noticed rugby is a TEAM sport, being part of a successful TEAM does not make you the most successful individual. God you are stupid.