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Quote: Stu M "We were second best for a lot of the game but still created more clear chances that with more composure sees us win the game.

Most of your fans on here to be fair are referencing them too. You scrambled superbly to prevent a couple no question but we need to improve on our support as with so many clean line breaks we should’ve converted more.'"


You didn’t have the energy because that first 15 mins in the second half we absolutely obliterated you in field position. That period you went from carrying the ball to the half way line, then struggling to get to your 40 then pushed back to the 30. As a Wigan fan it was great to see we could be disciplined like that, we’ve lacked it for such a long time. Singleton turned the game in your favour for the next 20, making the unfortunate high shot and giving you field position. Up to that point, it was a perfect start to the second half.

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Quote: Stu M "We were second best for a lot of the game but still created more clear chances that with more composure sees us win the game.

Most of your fans on here to be fair are referencing them too. You scrambled superbly to prevent a couple no question but we need to improve on our support as with so many clean line breaks we should’ve converted more.'"


Sorry mate. I think you're talking complete and utter .

If we play until June you still dont win

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I've said it all week and day BTW that today decides nothing.

We will need to beat Saints once if not twice to take the trophies home. We proved today that we can.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Sorry mate. I think you're talking complete and utter rubbish.

If we play until June you still dont win'"


I said we were second best for a lot of the game. How is that complete and utter rubbish? Or do you think you dominated for 80 mins?

Secondly did we or did we not create more clear line breaks?

That’s all I’ve said.

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Quote: Egg Chasing "Sorry mate. I think you're talking complete and utter rubbish.

If we play until June you still dont win'"


Wigan deserved the win but that’s a strange take. We were a dropped ball over the line from a 2 point game and bombed several clean breaks.

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Quote: FearTheVee "Fantastic game, thoroughly enjoyed it.

Well done wigan - deserved winners.'"


+1 That game was a credit to the sport. I want to see that kind of contest every week.

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Quote: Stu M "No.

The Knowles clean break and pass to Shorrocks.
Makinson trying to beat French on the outside rather than stepping inside
Lomax clean break when Farrell bats it back
A bombed 2 on 1 from a scrum 20 metres out
Welsby clean break, no one in support
Knowles not grounding it properly for the no try (correct decision)

There’s large elements of Wigan scrambling well to defend but I can’t recall us making as many clean breaks for a long time. On another day we convert those, that’s what I’m saying.

It’s like the Liverpool 7-0 against Utd. They had 8 shots all game and scored 7. They’ve scored one goal since.

Wigan were clinical today.

A bit more composure and we win that by 10 today. Whilst I’m disappointed I’m not massively worried yet about the games that matter at the end of the season.'"


But Stu, winning is all about getting over the whitewash. Wigan were good value for their win today. I thought that Wigan won the arm wrestle and controlled Saints for long periods. The only try Saints scored was from a kick which tells you something about Wigan’s defence. One noticeable thing is that Saints lack pace and that should be of concern going forward. I thought it was a cracking game where 34 players gave it everything.

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Quote: ChrisA "A game won by effort that one. Given Field and Cust were missing we had to play a certain way, and we did it to perfection.

That said, Saints had they taken their chances would have won, so we still have to be a lot better come the big games that do matter.'"


Wigan are more fluent and threatening without Cust.

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Quote: Zig "But Stu, winning is all about getting over the whitewash. Wigan were good value for their win today. I thought that Wigan won the arm wrestle and controlled Saints for long periods. The only try Saints scored was from a kick which tells you something about Wigan’s defence. One noticeable thing is that Saints lack pace and that should be of concern going forward. I thought it was a cracking game where 34 players gave it everything.'"


Correct.

Or as Stu wants us to believe .... Wigan lost and Saints won.

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RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!! Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg



Brilliant day, the DW gets some stick but on a sunny Good Friday with 24,000 in its super league at its very best. Fantastic Atmosphere.

Some rambling thoughts on the game -

This will forever in my mind be known as the “Joe Shorrocks game”. This is what most clubs miss out on. A local lad, academy product who was willing to bust a gut to get the job done for his club. He kept it simple with the ball and his try savers were great.

Peet got the team spot on, I think O’Neill would have struggled with the intensity for 80 minutes and Powell is such a good defender and bossed the ruck.

Harry Smith is one of our best players, class today. Was worried that over the next few months he’d start getting stick as he’s under huge pressure but he was massive today. His defence has improved.

Smithies, Havard, Byrne, - for the last few years these lads have struggled against, being young rookies but this felt like a coming of age game. They really stood up as legit experienced superleague players and got the best of Saints pack.

Mike Cooper had his best game in a Wigan shirt hope he’s not too long. (Singo’s lazy arm after he’d been on a minute nearly cost us).

We were out Saintsing Saints at times. The 10 minutes before Kings try. We line speeding them to death and they could barely make 30m a set then the broke.

King, Miski’s yardage carries were excellent and helped the pack massively.

On Saints thought Hurrell was absolutely immense with ball in hand, game changer.

Roby is the SL GOAT in my mind but he showed his age today. He was well off the pace.

Great day for the club.

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Quote: Zig "+1 That game was a credit to the sport. I want to see that kind of contest every week.'"


Agreed. I was chatting to someone tonight who said, I went to the game, I really should make the effort to go more often, it was great. I imagine I'm not the only one to have heard such talk.

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From the sounds of it a couple of Saints fans got thrown out today for fighting for acting like d@ickheads

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Quote: Stu M "No.

The Knowles clean break and pass to Shorrocks.
Makinson trying to beat French on the outside rather than stepping inside
Lomax clean break when Farrell bats it back
A bombed 2 on 1 from a scrum 20 metres out
Welsby clean break, no one in support
Knowles not grounding it properly for the no try (correct decision)

There’s large elements of Wigan scrambling well to defend but I can’t recall us making as many clean breaks for a long time. On another day we convert those, that’s what I’m saying.

It’s like the Liverpool 7-0 against Utd. They had 8 shots all game and scored 7. They’ve scored one goal since.

Wigan were clinical today.

A bit more composure and we win that by 10 today. Whilst I’m disappointed I’m not massively worried yet about the games that matter at the end of the season.'"

Answer me something honestly Stu; when saints win a game by tenacious scrambling defence and clinically taking their chances when they come, do you say the other team should have won by 10?

Wigan won by being the better side today. Simple as that. Saying if Farrell doesn't bat the ball down or French doesn't pull off a try saver or that Knowles was good enough to score and the game would have been different is being disingenuous. All those things DID happen because Wigan were good enough to make them happen or Saints weren't good enough to stop them happening.

The "if this would have happened instead of what actually happened, it would have had a different result" is the worst argument in sport. You're better than that.

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Fabulous occasion today felt like the 1990s all over again and a credit to the sport.
Interested in the narrative that we had two chances and took them and Saints bombed 5 or something. Firstly, when has opposition misfortune been acknowledged by Sts in recent narrow squeak years? I would argue KPP dropping the kick he won when it was easier to score and an unmarked Marshall dropping a quick fire French pass were spurned opportunities too before we get on to the defensive efforts of French, Shorrocks x2 and Farrell as well as the blatantly forward pass for the second half Welsby “opportunity”

Sts have been and still are a champion side but Wigan were better and wanted it more today. Simples & Bravo

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When people talk about Saints bombing chances, they’re ignoring the fact they don’t have the pace to score from deep. A chance is only a chance if you actually have a chance of scoring but Saints are so slow across the board. They’re a fantastic side and you need to be squeaky clean against them but they’ll only beat you by scoring from within your 20. If you can win the territory battle, you’re most of the way there against them. We’ve learned that lesson this past 14 months and are now sticking in games and being patient. They’ll get you sometimes, like that game in Newcastle but they won’t run away from you as long as you decide to stick in the battle with them. They’re still the favourites for the major trophies this year IMO but we’ve worked out a way of beating them this past season and a bit and I think we can all be confident now that they’re not going to trample over us, like they did in 2021.

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