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| We've just made the worst St Helens team I've ever seen look like world beaters.
Truly awful performance.
Not an attacking bone in their bodies.
They seem utterly incapable of playing what's in front of them, setting up "the move" is all they can do.
Whatever happened to running lines ? Dummy runners ? Backing up ?
Have they all been outlawed ?
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| Predictable meltdown after a defeat. Where were all you muppets during our winning run?
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Predictable meltdown after a defeat. Where were all you muppets during our winning run?'"
What winning run MR MUPPET
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| Quote ="Pacific"Rubbish.
We are still almost all bookies favourites to win the grand final and I think we will.
We have Clubb, Farrell, McIlorum, Gelling and Charley and Tautai to come back.
Disappointing result tonight but its still ours to lose and deep down any opposition fan knows that.'"
Herm I don't think so we battered you not long ago, you where very lucky at our ground when we was finding our way as a new team early in the season, some of the games you have won the Widnes away game for instance, you was by far the worse team I think your in an inflated league position and I fully expect our pack to run over yours, your half backs can not play when the pack is on the front foot never mind been beaten, I look forward to you coming to our back yard next week don't forget Donny are our duel registered cousins lol
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Predictable meltdown after a defeat. Where were all you muppets during our winning run?'"
Wondering how the hell they were scraping wins together when they're barely averaging 20pts a game.
It's just so boring watching the same thing in every set of six.
You can't possibly be entertained watching this ?
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Predictable meltdown after a defeat. Where were all you muppets during our winning run?'"
Why is someone a muppet if they disagree with you?
Personally I wasn't surprised by tonight because effort and commitment on it's own is not sustainable and that is what we have but zero rugby ability.
A performance to forget but what disappointed me most was our usual "up for it" approach versus saints was nowhere to be seen.
I genuinely believe all the eggs from the club's perspective is the CC and anything else is a sideshow.
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"Predictable meltdown after a defeat. Where were all you muppets during our winning run?'"
Here.
What is worse I still think we will win it. Fairly damming indication of the standard and also the coaching this year. Props don't make good coaches. I think TL will revolutionise us next year and Wane will continue to coach great undoubtedly great defence. From a playing and coaching point of view TL is a masterful signing.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"I said to the wife on about 43 mins that i was bored watching the game.
Not sour grapes as saints fully deserved their win as they were the much better team but we were so terrible i couldnt be bothered watching anymore
I pity those who actually pay to watch that cr@p'"

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| Typical Wane inspired Derby performance. Clearly up for it with the aggression in the tackle but clueless in every other aspect.
He says in his post match the attack wasn't good enough. Well Mr Wane it's not been good enough for 26 games. It's not news to anyone but you.
Cunningham said we could still be playing now and would not score and he is right.
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| Quote ="jonh"Here.
What is worse I still think we will win it. Fairly damming indication of the standard and also the coaching this year. Props don't make good coaches. I think TL will revolutionise us next year and Wane will continue to coach great undoubtedly great defence. From a playing and coaching point of view TL is a masterful signing.'"
Graeme West ended up a prop but his approach was refreshing and he just let the players play.
Coaches do not make great teams.
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| Calm down and take a breath.
We have the best coach in the league and the best squad and we have 5 players still to come back from injury.
We will be fine, dont let opposition fans stir the pot.
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| Disappointing tonight but the important game is next week. Very, very frustrating to watch but to be honest Saints were brilliant in defence. They really did their homework, slowed the game right down at any given opportunity and fully deserved their win, I think they will be a threat come September.
Our attack was woeful, we seemed to go wide too early and Saints had our set moves sussed out. More than a few Wigan players had bad games; Sarginson, Tomkins, Smith and O'Loughlin just to name a few. Full credit to Saints, they executed their plan very well (bit of credit to Cunningham for once?!). On to next week, I expect a different Wigan side to turn up.
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| Quote ="Pacific"Calm down and take a breath.
We have the best coach in the league and the best squad and we have 5 players still to come back from injury.
We will be fine, dont let opposition fans stir the pot.'"
Best coach in the league? What have you been drinking? And before you say it is an over reaction to tonight's game I have been of this opinion for some time. He does not have a clue how to fix the attack.
Watching Wigan play this season has been like watching paint dry. Maybe you view the game on the stats and so because we are where we are in the league think that makes everything rosey. Well it doesn't. It's supposed to be about entertainment as well and while scraping a last ditch win win Wakefield as we did a couple of weeks ago was exciting it just covers up the cracks, which got exposed tonight.
Unless the wheels fall of Hull in 7 days we won't be going any further in the CC IMO.
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| Disagree Dave O I expect us to batter Hull next week. Again not a good indication of the standard this year.
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| Quote ="jonh"Disagree Dave O I expect us to batter Hull next week. Again not a good indication of the standard this year.'"
Really? I hope you are right but if that team tonight takes the pitch again I am not sure why you expect different.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Really? I hope you are right but if that team tonight takes the pitch again I am not sure why you expect different.'"
Our spine was horrendous tonight. 1, 7, 6, 9, and 13 awful. Rest of the team I actually think went well.
Doubt those key players will to a man be so poor again this year.
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| Quote ="jonh"Our spine was horrendous tonight. 1, 7, 6, 9, and 13 awful. Rest of the team I actually think went well.
Doubt those key players will to a man be so poor again this year.'"
Sam T is not fit. Looks to have no pace. Will he be fit next week? But regardless of that the robotic attack we have looks easy to defend against. Score around 20 points v Wigan and there is a good chance you will win.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Sam T is not fit. Looks to have no pace. Will he be fit next week? But regardless of that the robotic attack we have looks easy to defend against. Score around 20 points v Wigan and there is a good chance you will win.'"
The entire team played without a brain. Sam is usually the brain. He is not nor will he ever be the pacey fullback he once was.
Sam had a bad day.
Smith had his usual day. Powell and Williams looked clueless. Too much emotion not enough intellect. If we were playing Saints again in the semi I think we would get battered. Wane however has no emotional connection to Hull as such he will probably coach them rather than tell them to knock 7 bells out of them.
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| Quote ="jonh"
Too much emotion not enough intellect. If we were playing Saints again in the semi I think we would get battered. Wane however has no emotional connection to Hull as such he will probably coach them rather than tell them to knock 7 bells out of them.'"
Again I hope you are right. Glad you recognise the obvious re Wane and Saints. It was clear as day he had the team in aggressive mode putting in some big tackles but left it at there. Not good enough.
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| Youve also got the refs assistant in Tomkins. He seems to love telling the ref where hes gone wrong
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| Win next week all will be well in the world. Lose and it will be in meltdown.
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"What winning run MR MUPPET'"
Haha exactly, what winning run eh? It's irrelevant to people like you when we win because you have nothing to moan about.
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Wondering how the hell they were scraping wins together when they're barely averaging 20pts a game.
It's just so boring watching the same thing in every set of six.
You can't possibly be entertained watching this ?'"
I'm always entertained when I watch Wigan because, as cheesy as this sounds, I love the club and will support the team win, lose or draw.
Can I see that the Rugby has been one dimensional and lacking in excitement? Of course. But I can also see the insane amount of absentees we've had thoughout the year which inevitably has led to disruption on the field. To be where we are in the table in spite of that is incredible.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"Why is someone a muppet if they disagree with you?
Personally I wasn't surprised by tonight because effort and commitment on it's own is not sustainable and that is what we have but zero rugby ability.
A performance to forget but what disappointed me most was our usual "up for it" approach versus saints was nowhere to be seen.
I genuinely believe all the eggs from the club's perspective is the CC and anything else is a sideshow.'"
It's not so much the disagreement, it's that people like ziggy have barely been on here since the last time we lost.
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"It's not so much the disagreement, it's that people like ziggy have barely been on here since the last time we lost.'"
For some people perhaps a few scrappy wins and they think that we are turning it around then we throw in a performance that was appalling at best and we are back to square one and it brings their frustrations out?
I'm totally convinced that we are absolutely horrific to watch and have been for over 2 years and no amount of scrappy wins will convince me otherwise.
I always hope we win but frankly it doesn't hurt anymore when we don't.
I have already decided not to renew my ST and if and its a big if I won't be going to Wembley if we should scrape a win next week versus Hull.
If that makes me a muppet then i will take Animal as my character.
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