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| Quote ="21-12"But its the pressure factor, its becoming a poisoned chalice coaching Wigan. His family live in Hull and from what I saw of that documentary he looked very happy, so why come to us? Fair enough we are still arguably the biggest club in the world and the most famous, but at the moment I cant see a proper reason for him leaving Hull KR to come to Wigan.'"
I'm sure he was happy at Toulouse also so why did he go to Hull KR?
Why did Potter leave a successful Catalan side for Saints?
Why did Bennett go to St.George?
Why did Noble come to us after being Bradford’s greatest ever coach/
Because it’s all about taking the next step and a bigger challenge. The potential at Wigan is massive for someone that is willing to take it head on and make the tough calls.
If Morgan doesn’t want that and wants to keep the security he’s got now then it wouldn’t work anyway.
Something tells me about the guy tho that he’d well be up for making the use of our facilities and academy sides. |
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Morgan would do great at Wigan IMO
If he could get the best out of our players and make them as drilled and organised as he has with that bunch at KR then we would be a bloody good team I reckon
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| Quote ="21-12"But its the pressure factor, its becoming a poisoned chalice coaching Wigan. His family live in Hull and from what I saw of that documentary he looked very happy, so why come to us? Fair enough we are still arguably the biggest club in the world and the most famous, but at the moment I cant see a proper reason for him leaving Hull KR to come to Wigan.'"
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Has it been annouced yet what the kick off is for the HKR because it mite be on the box and people already bought tickets will be un happy if its a nite kick off for those who have children.
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He may coach the 'dark-side' but i'd take him at the KC right now. It was easy to see in that short film why Rovers have come such a long way in such a short time.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"icon_rolleyes.gif
Sorry for the rant but this is really starting to bug me. I’ve seen this type of negative attitude grow within our own fans more and more over the past few years and it has to stop sooner rather than later.
FFS were Wigan RL, and it’s not about living in the past before anyone says that, it’s about never adopting that small club mentality some fans seemed to have resigned themselves to already. If you expect mediocrity in every aspect of the club then that’s what you’re going to get. The moment we start to belittle ourselves or put ourselves down is the moment we become major underachievers like Warrington or even worse Wigan Athletic who are just happy to be there and never win anything. This club has already achieved great things and can achieve great things once again. I really can’t work out those fans who are always negative and presume the worse in every situation.
No disrespect to Hull KR here as they are what I’d call my 2nd team when not going against Wigan. You can’t help but like a team with Colbon, Briscoe and Dobbo as well as admire the work Morgan has done sticking with a lot of the players who took them up.
BUT;
We are still a bigger club
We’ve got a better ground
We’ve arguably got the premier training facilities in SL.
We’ve got better attendances
Our reserves and Accademy produce good/quality SL players week in week out and currently sit at the top of both tables.
He’s got an owner who runs the club well and will back him and give him time
We’ve got a good team which pushed a Hull KR team currently on their best run in decades very, very close and we could have won.
If we offered him the job the question should be with so much to offer why wouldn't he come??
Rant over'"
... and the point you conveniently left out, and probably the point that 21-12 was trying to make:
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3 Leeds 20
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5 Harlequins RL 16
6 Wakefield 16
7 Hull 14
8 Castleford 14
9 Wigan 12
10 Warrington 12
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13 Bradford 9
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| Quote ="Smurf"... and the point you conveniently left out, and probably the point that 21-12 was trying to make:
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Thats the reason that Morgan is probably happy where he is right now, with the full backing of the board to go with it.'"
You missed out the key one Priestman.
We are clearly the biggest club as we have more bloody fans of other clubs posting on the Wigan forum than we do Wigan fans. |
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| Quote ="Smurf"... and the point you conveniently left out, and probably the point that 21-12 was trying to make:
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Thats the reason that Morgan is probably happy where he is right now, with the full backing of the board to go with it.'"
No I really didn't miss that one.
Lets not beat around the bush your currently a better team than us I’ll admit that.
BUT it’s not the be all and end all and I’m sure Morgan would look at more things than current league standings if he was offered the Wigan job.
You’ve named me one good reason why he’d turn us down and I mentioned about four of five why he could come.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"
Lets not beat around the bush your currently a better team than us I’ll admit that.
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Woah woah, hold your horses! 
I just think that Morgan would stick at Hull kr as long as they are doing well (especially if they finish above Leeds). If the most successful coach of the summer era is shot down in flames every five seconds, what would happen to Morgan? |
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well when nobby came we where bottom of the league by a mile- bradford where 3rd. shows that results dont matter when it comes to a coach changing clubs.
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Morgan would do great at Wigan IMO
If he could get the best out of our players and make them as drilled and organised as he has with that bunch at KR then we would be a bloody good team I reckon'"
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"well when nobby came we where bottom of the league by a mile- bradford where 3rd. shows that results dont matter when it comes to a coach changing clubs.'"
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| Quote ="Conroy"Yep, and Steve Bruce left an 11th placed Wigan to join a team that stayed up on the final day
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| Quote ="moonlight flit"I don't remember Wigan having a coach called Bruce ?'"
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So after the last three weeks do you still want Morgan to replace Noble?
A 30 point home defeat.
Has Noble delivered that after the initial few Millward games?
Or would McDermott now be "flavour of the month"?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So after the last three weeks do you still want Morgan to replace Noble?
A 30 point home defeat.
Has Noble delivered that after the initial few Millward games?'"
Hudds at home
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| Quote ="Conroy"Yep, and Steve Bruce left an 11th placed Wigan to join a team that stayed up on the final day
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Didn't he cite support, history and tradtion as the main attractions behind his reasons reasons for jumping ship? Says it all really. See Latics are in the top 10 premier league debt list at £66M. Relegation would signal the end for those plucky little scrappers.
Won't be long. Tick tock, tick tock.... |
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"Didn't he cite support, history and tradtion as the main attractions behind his reasons reasons for jumping ship? Says it all really. See Latics are in the top 10 premier league debt list at £66M. Relegation would signal the end for those plucky little scrappers.
Won't be long. Tick tock, tick tock....'"
Wonder how long Martinez will last. He's played a nice brand of passing football at Swansea. With the players he has available at Latics it would be suicide in the Premier League.
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"Didn't he cite support, history and tradtion as the main attractions behind his reasons reasons for jumping ship? Says it all really. See Latics are in the top 10 premier league debt list at £66M. Relegation would signal the end for those plucky little scrappers.
:324vkhroWon't be long. Tick tock, tick tock....[/
Not long Now!
Tick Tock Tick Tock won't be long till they Face the Drop!
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Wonder how long Martinez will last. He's played a nice brand of passing football at Swansea. With the players he has available at Latics it would be suicide in the Premier League.
Imagine those bandwagoners, fresh from their Christmas shopping, shouting for his head from the Billy Boston stand.'"
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Back on topic guys.
Justin Morgan to Wigan.
No better than Noble IMO.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Back on topic guys.
Justin Morgan to Wigan.
No better than Noble IMO.'"
How do you know how good a coach he is though? How good he is with the players and stuff? |
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| If I was chairman I'd offer top dollar, in this order, to:
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Back on topic guys.
Justin Morgan to Wigan.
No better than Noble IMO.'"
Agreed. Let him prove himself then maybe we can have a look at him. |
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Back on topic guys.
Justin Morgan to Wigan.
No better than Noble IMO.'"
Morgan has done more in his short time, up against it, than Noble ever has. Achievement is relative, its not about winning trophies it is about maximising your resources Morgan in relative terms is a far more successful coach than Noble.
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